A Gentle Conversation about Density

A Gentle Conversation about Density

Author: Samuel Stafford July 23, 2022 Duration: 59:16

Where should we build 300,000 new homes every year?

We could build tall buildings, which can have transformative effects on city centres and their skylines, but might not necessarily match delivery with need.

Or we could build urban extensions and new settlements, which could be imbued from the outset with the highest possible design and build standards, but are very difficult to deliver.

Or we could densify, gently, existing suburbs. We could incentivise LPAs, residents and SME builders to upgrade older, less energy-efficient housing stock, especially in those parts of the cities with the greatest potential to reduce car dependency. This too though is a challenge. Centre for Cities found that over a fifth of neighbourhoods outside city centres have built no new houses since 2011, while half have built, on average, less than one home each year.

Why are our suburbs the way they are? What are the barriers to densification and how might they be overcome?

Sam Stafford puts these question to Samuel Hughes, Hana Loftus and Ben Woolnough

Samuel (@scp_hughes) is a Research Fellow at the University of Oxford and a Senior Fellow at Policy Exchange and Create Streets. Hana Loftus (@hanaloftus), is a Director at HAT Projects and an Associate at Public Practice. Ben (@benhoward_w) is Planning Manager at East Suffolk Council. 

Some accompanying reading

‘What have been the impacts of the introduction of the standard methodology for calculating housing need on planning for housing?’ A report for Barratt Developments by the University of Liverpool

https://www.barrattdevelopments.co.uk/~/media/Files/B/Barratt-Developments/materials-and-downloads/uol-standard-methodology-final-report.pdf

‘New settlements in local plans: Not everything in the garden is rosy’ by Matthew Spry at Lichfields

https://lichfields.uk/blog/2020/may/26/new-settlements-in-local-plans-not-everything-in-the-garden-is-rosy/

‘Sleepy suburbs. The role of the suburbs in solving the housing crisis’ by Anthony Breach and Elena Magrini at Centre for Cities.

https://www.centreforcities.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Sleepy-Suburbs.pdf

‘Intensification and how to achieve it’ by Hana

http://virtualhana.blogspot.com/2022/04/intensification-and-how-to-achieve-it.html

‘Street Votes - what's the big idea?’ by Hana

http://virtualhana.blogspot.com/2022/04/intensification-and-how-to-achieve-it.html

‘Strong Suburbs’ by Samuel and Ben Southwood for Policy Exchange

https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/strong-suburbs/

‘Learning from History’ by Ben Southwood for Create Streets

https://www.createstreets.com/projects/learning-from-history-december-29th/

‘New Suburbia: What is a suburb?’ by Simon Cooke

https://theviewfromcullingworth.blogspot.com/2022/04/new-suburbia-1-what-is-suburb.html

Supurbia by HTA Design

https://www.hta.co.uk/project/supurbia

The Croydon Suburban Design Guide

https://suburbandesign.croydon.gov.uk/

‘Mayor Perry delivers on planning promise to protect Croydon’s local character by removing planning design guide’

https://lbc-app-w-newscroydon-p.azurewebsites.net/mayor-perry-delivers-on-planning-promise-to-protect-croydons-local-character-by-removing-planning-design-guide/

Some accompanying listening

Skirmish in the Suburbs by Snapped Ankles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s714eMCbdX4

50 Shades T-Shirts!

If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning Podcast you will have heard Clive Betts say that...

'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.

Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html


Samuel Stafford hosts 50 Shades of Planning, a podcast that digs into the often perplexing world of the English planning system. Rather than offering dry policy lectures, these conversations embrace the sector's inherent complexities and occasional absurdities. The aim is to provide a wide-ranging view, bringing in diverse voices from across the fields of planning, property, design, and development. You'll hear from practitioners, thinkers, and critics, each sharing their unique experiences and perspectives on how places are shaped. A recurring series within the podcast, titled 'Hitting The High Notes', features in-depth discussions with leading figures, examining pivotal career moments and influential projects. These talks are structured around six key planning milestones, offering a concrete framework for understanding professional journeys and systemic challenges. By weaving together themes from government, business, arts, and social sciences, this podcast reveals how planning sits at a crowded intersection of politics, economics, and community life. Tune in for thoughtful, sometimes surprising, explorations of the forces that decide what gets built, where, and why.
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