This episode is another in the Hitting The High Notes series, which is planning’s equivalent of Desert Island Discs. In these episodes Sam Stafford chats to preeminent figures in the planning and property sectors about the six projects that helped to shape them as professionals. And, so that we can get to know people a little better personally, for every project or stage of their career Sam also asks his guests for a piece of music that reminds them of that period.
Unlike Desert Island Discs you will not hear any of that music during the episode because using commercially-licensed music without the copyright holders permission or a very expensive PRS licensing agreement could land Sam in hot water, so, when you have finished listening, you will have to make do with You Tube videos and a Spotify playlist, links to which you will find below.
This episode features a conversation that Sam recorded with Hashi Mohamed at Soho Radio Studios in London towards the end of July 2023.
Regular listeners will recall that Hashi featured in episode 78, which was the recording of a conversation that he and friend of the podcast Simon Ricketts had had on Clubhouse about Hashi’s book ‘A Home of One’s Own’.
Sam's conversation with Hashi also takes in ‘A Home of One’s Own’, as well as Hashi’s other book, ‘People Like Us - What It Takes to Make It in Modern Britain’. In addition to the politics of housing and social mobility, you will also hear Hashi talk about his remarkable arrival in this country and a career in the law that has seen him become one of Planning Magazine’s top-rated junior barristers. His ‘Three A’s’ are top tips for any professional and listen out too for the best planning inquiry tale you will hear bar nun.
Sam also marks this 100th episode with some extended bonus waffle at the end, which was recorded whilst he was sunning himself in southern Spain.
Hashi’s song selections
Unforgettable - Nat King Cole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFyuOEovTOE
You’ll Never Walk Alone - Gerry & The Pacemakers
https://youtu.be/OV5_LQArLa0
Shaking of the Sheets – Steeleye Span
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I16WqxSMCu0
Changes - Tupac
https://youtu.be/eXvBjCO19QY
Still D.R.E - Dr Dre
https://youtu.be/_CL6n0FJZpk
A change is gonna come – Sam Cooke
https://youtu.be/wEBlaMOmKV4
Hashi’s Spotify playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6LIyBa2ifAY9EClQMdvrom?si=a8d8417838c3488e
Some accompanying listening.
Analysis: Housing, Planning and Politics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0014ptp
Analysis: Adventures in Social Mobility
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p04zrkxv?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
Gettin’ In The Way – Cooper T
https://youtu.be/BX9UkVoGRj8
Some accompanying reading.
Raising the bar: Hashi Mohamed’s journey from child refugee to top lawyer
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/12/hashi-mohamed-child-refugee-barrister-people-like-us
Hashi’s books
https://www.hashimohamed.com/the-book
The housing theory of everything by Sam Bowman, John Myers and Ben Southwood
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-everything
50 Shades T-Shirts!
If you have listened to Episode 45 of the 50 Shades of Planning you will have heard Clive Betts say that...
'In the Netherlands planning is seen as part of the solution. In the UK, too often, planning is seen as part of the problem'.
Sam said in reply that that would look good on a t-shirt and it does. Further details can be found here: http://samuelstafford.blogspot.com/2021/07/50-shades-of-planning-t-shirts.html
