Highlights: #191 (Part 1) – Carl Shulman on the economy and national security after AGI

Highlights: #191 (Part 1) – Carl Shulman on the economy and national security after AGI

Author: The 80,000 Hours team July 11, 2024 Duration: 35:12

This is a selection of highlights from episode #191 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast.

These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — and if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode:

Carl Shulman on the economy and national security after AGI

And if you're finding these highlights episodes valuable, please let us know by emailing podcast@80000hours.org.

Chapters:

  • Intro (00:00:00)
  • Robot nannies (00:00:23)
  • Key transformations after an AI capabilities explosion (00:05:15)
  • Objection: Shouldn't we be seeing economic growth rates increasing today? (00:10:28)
  • Objection: Declining returns to increases in intelligence? (00:16:09)
  • Objection: Could we really see rates of construction go up a hundredfold or a thousandfold? (00:20:58)
  • Objection: "This sounds completely whack" (00:26:10)
  • Income and wealth distribution (00:30:02)

Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong


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