REPLAY: Why is Abortion So Controversial in America?

REPLAY: Why is Abortion So Controversial in America?

Author: Liam Heffernan May 20, 2025 Duration: 57:21

As Pope Leo XIV reaffirms the church's position against abortion, we wanted to reshare this conversation, where Rev. Caleb Lines, a leader in the Christian community, explains why abortion is not a fundamentally religious issue, but a political one, and is, if anything, antithetical to the teachings of the Bible.

It's a fascinating listen, so check it out and leave a comment, follow, and rate this podcast wherever you're listening.

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This week, as one of the most conservative administrations in recent times settle into the White House, concern grows on the left around what this means for reproductive rights. The overturning of Roe v Wade, back in June 2022, was a seismic decision by the Supreme Court, and one that has made abortion one of the most important and divisive issues in the United States, but why?

I’m joined by the brilliant Rebecca Fraser, a historian with a keen focus on gender and race, and the insightful Reverend Caleb Lines, who’s made waves on social media for his candid takes on such hot-button topics. Together, we’ll explore the historical context of abortion, the tangled relationship between politics and religion, and how these factors shape current debates.

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Special guest for this episode:

  • Rebecca Fraser, a professor of American history and culture at the University of East Anglia. Her research focuses on discourses of gender, race, and sexuality, particularly in 19th century America.
  • Rev. Caleb Lines, the Senior Minister of University Christian Church in San Diego, the Co-Executive Director of ProgressiveChristianity.org, and the Co-Host for The Moonshine Jesus Show.

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Highlights from this episode:

  • The recent political climate has intensified concerns about reproductive rights in America, especially after the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
  • Understanding the historical context of abortion reveals that it's been a contentious issue influenced by various social and political factors over the decades.
  • The podcast dives into how different interpretations of Christianity shape attitudes towards abortion, highlighting the clash between progressive and fundamentalist views.
  • Economic factors play a crucial role in the abortion debate, as many women seeking abortions do so due to financial constraints and lack of support for raising children.
  • The episode emphasizes that pro-choice advocates are not pro-abortion; they advocate for women's right to choose based on individual circumstances and needs.
  • The conversation touches on the intersection of patriarchy and reproductive rights, questioning whether abortion would be as controversial if it primarily affected men.

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Additional Resources:

READ: Abortion: What does overturn of Roe v Wade mean? - BBC News

READ: Caleb Lines Website

WATCH: Why Do Religious Groups Care About Abortion? - Caleb Lines via TikTok

READ: 10 States Put Abortion Rights on the Ballot This Year. 7 Voted to Enshrine Protections 

LISTEN: The Moonshine Jesus Show

READ: Analysis: How...


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