EP-373 | India vs Pakistan: Who Wins the Narrative War? | Lt Col Pavithran & Amb. Anil Trigunayat

EP-373 | India vs Pakistan: Who Wins the Narrative War? | Lt Col Pavithran & Amb. Anil Trigunayat

Author: Asian News International (ANI) December 17, 2025 Duration: 1:35:11

In this episode of the ANI Podcast with Smita Prakash, we are joined by Lt. Col. Pavithran Rajan, a former intelligence officer, academic, and tech entrepreneur, and Ambassador Anil Trigunayat, a former Indian Foreign Service officer and Distinguished Fellow at the Vivekananda International Foundation.


Together, they discuss India’s narrative war against Pakistan and why winning this battle is crucial. Should India’s armed forces have a dedicated team to counter Pakistani propaganda in real time? Why does India still lack a strong and organised information-warfare system? How can India protect its global image?


They also examine how Western think tanks publish anti-India reports that shape global opinion, and how India should respond.


00:00 – Introduction

01:17 – India vs Pak: Information Warfare

07:06 – India vs Pak: Social Media Battle

11:57 – India’s Fact-Checking System

18:34 – Information Warfare: What Should India Do?

23:10 – India vs Pak Narrative During War

27:24 – Red Fort Attack & GPS Spoofing

33:00 – Sanchar Saathi App & Surveillance Concerns

40:54 – Phone Tapping

44:56 – How Terror Networks Avoid Detection

46:23 – Freedom of Speech vs National Security

50:24 – Open-Source Intelligence and Data Leaks

53:13 – National Security Rules for Tech Companies

56:10 – Disinformation During Operation Sindoor

01:00:18 – Western Media Bias Against India

01:03:48 – Rise of Anti-Drone Systems

01:06:28 – India’s Drone Challenge

01:13:06 – Gaps in Internal Security

01:16:01 – Grey-Zone Tactics & Diplomacy

01:17:33 – Role of AI in Information Warfare

01:22:36 – Need for a Unified Tech Framework

01:26:29 – Hybrid Warfare Challenges with Pakistan

01:28:19 – Possibility of Operation Sindoor 2?

01:31:26 – Public Trust & Security Strategy


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