Guys and Dolls: Offenbach's The Tales of Hoffmann

Guys and Dolls: Offenbach's The Tales of Hoffmann

Author: WQXR & The Metropolitan Opera July 7, 2021 Duration: 40:17

What makes us human? As artificial intelligence becomes more advanced, technology is becoming even more integrated into the fabric of daily life, and better able to simulate real human interactions. But what really separates humans from machines is our ability to love, to dream, and to believe in an illusion. 

In Offenbach’s The Tales of Hoffmann, the poet Hoffmann thinks he’s finally found love, and he’s so head-over-heels that he doesn’t realize something’s off -- Olympia, the woman of his dreams, isn’t a woman at all. She’s a wind-up doll. But like all of us humans, he can’t help but view his beloved through rose-colored glasses. 

In “Les oiseaux dans la charmille,” Olympia sings one of the great arias for a coloratura soprano, and it’s music that’s so difficult it seems like only a machine could sing it. Host Rhiannon Giddens and her guests find the human angle to this doll’s song, exploring the pitfalls and illusions of love in the time of A.I. 

Soprano Erin Morley started singing “Les oiseaux dans la charmille” in her very first voice lesson at the Eastman School of Music. Since then, she’s been searching for just the right balance of human and robot as she sings up into the stratosphere. 

Conductor Johannes Debus is the music director for the Canadian Opera Company. He loves the kaleidoscopic range of styles in The Tales of Hoffmann, and how Offenbach seems to explore all aspects of humanity with great sympathy.

Machine-learning research Caroline Sinders looks at technology and society through the lens of design and human rights. She is currently a researcher at the Berggruen Institute, and an artist in residence at Ars Electronica, and previously was a design researcher at IBM Watson.

Dr. Robert Epstein is a senior research psychologist at the American Institute for Behavioral Research and Technology. He established the first-ever annual Turing Test and is a pro at distinguishing artificial intelligence from human intelligence. But even he is susceptible to wearing rose-colored glasses -- just like Hoffmann, and just like the rest of us. 


There’s a moment in every great opera where the story narrows to a single, soaring voice-an aria that captures a character’s deepest joy, despair, or longing. Aria Code is built around those moments. This isn't a dry history lesson; it's an invitation to understand the craft and emotion packed into a few minutes of music. Each episode takes one iconic aria and unpacks it from every angle. You’ll hear the aria itself in stunning performances from the Metropolitan Opera’s archive, but the real magic lies in the conversation around it. Host Rhiannon Giddens, a celebrated musician and MacArthur Fellow, guides these explorations with genuine curiosity. She’s joined by the very singers who have mastered these roles, like Roberto Alagna, Diana Damrau, and Sondra Radvanovsky, who share the physical and interpretive challenges behind the notes. Alongside them, musicologists, directors, and even psychologists chime in to reveal what makes each piece so timeless and powerful. Produced by WQXR & The Metropolitan Opera, this podcast feels like a backstage pass, offering a rare blend of technical insight and raw human storytelling. Whether you're a seasoned opera lover or simply curious about what makes these pieces so enduring, you’ll find yourself listening more closely, hearing not just a beautiful voice, but an entire world of meaning coded into the music.
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