Teaching is Learning is Teaching

Teaching is Learning is Teaching

Author: Jevon Perra June 9, 2026 Duration: 16:23
  • Teacher, learner, there is no difference, for if you teach about learning, you are parroting dead ideas from the past that may never have happened in reality. If you are only a learner, then you are robbing the process of metabolising what is coming to you so that it can come back in new forms that create even more understanding for the supposed other?
  • So teach in order to learn, share with you now and be open to what comes back. Share with you now and pay attention to what you are saying and how you are putting together the information in order to communicate it clearly, because if you do, you will learn. You will learn greatly, as a matter of fact, if you are a teacher in this way. You will learn more than you ever would have been able to learn if you had just considered yourself a learner only.
  • So learn in order to teach, because if you are learning with no intention to share, you have a distinct ability to put bits of information or stories in compartments that only solidify prior judgments and ideas that you have, thus missing the whole point of what has been brought to you.
  • So when you teach, know that you are receiving as much as you're giving and changing as fast as you are bettering, and that the other's growth is your growth, literally. They are giving you a great gift by being open to learn, but the gift is not theirs. The gift is yours.
  • And when you learn, you are also giving the same gift to another, but as you metabolize the information and process it, it can become alive. 



In Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way, host Jevon Perra engages in a series of searching conversations with individuals who have navigated profound personal transformations. This podcast explores the multifaceted journey toward what many traditions term Awakening or Enlightenment, moving beyond abstract theory to focus on tangible, lived experience. Each episode introduces you to a different guide-teachers, healers, and everyday practitioners-who share the raw details of their own paths through physical ailments, emotional turmoil, mental challenges, and spiritual seeking. Jevon’s approach is grounded and curious, drawing out not just the philosophies but the practical steps and personal stories behind each guest’s healing. You’ll hear discussions that intersect fitness, health, societal structures, and alternative spirituality, reflecting a holistic view of human potential. The aim is to illuminate the diverse routes available for those feeling a similar pull, offering relatable narratives and insights that listeners can reflect upon in their own lives. It’s a space for deep listening and discovery, where each conversation in this podcast serves as a potential waypoint for your own exploration of a more integrated and awakened existence.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 50

Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way
Podcast Episodes
The Bad Judgement to Avoid - ACIM - Manual for Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:19
Selecting the Topic for Discussion: Jevon Perra reviewed the remaining topics in the *Manual for Teachers*, including questions about healing, the perception of the order of difficulties, changes required in God's teache…
Open Minded to Be Free - ACIM - Manual for Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:19
The Nature of Successful Relationships: Jevon Perra stated that good relationships require a sacrifice of individual needs and wants for something greater. Brian Genovese commented that they are single because they do no…
You Find What You Seek - Faithfulness - ACIM - Manual for Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:36
Introduction to the Topic of Faithfulness: The discussion shifted to continuing the study of the characteristics of God for God's teachers. Jevon Perra identified that they were starting with "faithfulness," which is the…
Unstoppable Defencelessness - ACIM - Manual for Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:04
Transition to Study Material: Joy: Jevon Perra announced the group was moving on to the topic of "joy" in their manual, "Manual for Teachers". Jevon Perra and Brian Genovese briefly sang a song with lyrics about having j…
Judging is Self-Deception - ACIM - Manual for Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:48
Starting the Manual for Teachers Reading: Jevon Perra and Denise Darlene discussed how the lessons and teachings from the course can seep in over time without systematic study. Jevon Perra announced they would be reading…
Only the Honest can be Content  -ACIM. manual for teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 42:53
Reference Material for the Course: The speakers briefly discussed related literature, with Jevon Perra mentioning Ken Wapnick's commentary as a great resource, identifying them as the original editor. They also agreed th…
The Let Go Game - ACIM [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:46
Personal Flow and Attachment Soo Kim expressed a feeling of being on the "verge of something". Jevon Perra commented that Soo Kim was doing great with "not attaching to any outcome and just flowing non-judgmentally," whi…