Trusting. Can't Do It On My Own. ACIM with Denise

Trusting. Can't Do It On My Own. ACIM with Denise

Author: Jevon Perra December 30, 2025 Duration: 39:22

ACIM with Denise. https://www.newparadigmoflove.org/

#trust #trusting and the Ego Jevon Perra explained that learning to trust God, the one power manipulating and directing life, allows for rest because all challenges are directed by God for one's highest good. The lack of trust stems from the ego, which includes not trusting oneself or feeling inadequate, which Jevon Perra stated is the untrustworthy and "not good enough" ego (00:03:06). They invited participants to trust their "higher self" and develop the awareness to distinguish between the ego and the peaceful movements of the Holy Spirit (00:04:19).

Perception, Cause, and Effect Jevon Perra discussed how a lack of trust is associated with the expectation of an external effect needing to happen for them to reach a desired state, such as gaining possessions to be at peace or achieving respect after learning enough (00:04:19). They highlighted the teaching that perception is learning and cause and effect are never separated, suggesting that the suffering comes from the belief that a specific external effect must happen (00:05:55). Jevon Perra also suggested naming the ego, sharing that their ego's name is Dorca, to create separation and to not take the ego's fear-based, trouble-causing actions seriously (00:07:04).

Trust, Expectation, and Surrender When in trust, Jevon Perra noted that they let go of all their "rackets" and expectations, including the meaning of what is happening (00:08:34). Kristen shared that this concept feels like having "split personalities" between the true self and the ego, and confessed that their rage stems from going off emotions rather than trusting God (00:09:36). Jevon Perra emphasized that the ego is arrogant and thinks it knows everything, but the reality is that surrender and trust in God's governance are necessary to experience the "kingdom of heaven on earth" (00:13:07).

Trust in Difficult Circumstances and Medical Treatment Kristen, who was starting radiation that day, discussed how the "not knowing" triggers them and turns them into a different person, but they must trust the process and believe that the experience is their path. Jevon Perra suggested that the doctors and medical staff are operating through the mind of God and that trust should be placed in God's directive, noting that even if we do not like the circumstances, the ultimate purpose is love (00:10:40) (00:15:35). Jevon Perra also shared a personal story about their son being shot at while in Iraq, where God invited them to live in the present moment and assured them of their presence if the worst happened, encouraging Kristen to trust that God will be with them through their challenges (00:28:53).

The Process of Undoing and Developing Trust Jevon Perra referred to the stages of trust development as the "period of undoing," where things that were always meaningless, such as material things, identity, and security, are removed from one's life (00:20:44). Kristen acknowledged the difficulty of trusting the process, especially when taking time off, noting that confronting the ego is uncomfortable (00:24:37). Jevon Perra recommended that Kristen look into a detox with a holistic practitioner in Mission Viejo to get the radiation out of their system more quickly (00:25:49).

Ego Awareness and Practical Tools Jevon Perra emphasized that willingness to change directions and be governed by the Holy Spirit is the only requirement for moving from fear to trust (00:32:20). They also highlighted that awareness of the ego's predictable patterns and strategies is 80% of the work toward awakening and suggested using the Enneagram, which profiles the ego, to learn about its fixations and core beliefs (00:34:22). Jevon Perra concluded by offering to text Kristen contact information for the holistic practitioner and links for the Enneagram test, suggesting a future discussion about their results (00:37:19).


In Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way, host Jevon Perra engages in a series of searching conversations with individuals who have navigated profound personal transformations. This podcast explores the multifaceted journey toward what many traditions term Awakening or Enlightenment, moving beyond abstract theory to focus on tangible, lived experience. Each episode introduces you to a different guide-teachers, healers, and everyday practitioners-who share the raw details of their own paths through physical ailments, emotional turmoil, mental challenges, and spiritual seeking. Jevon’s approach is grounded and curious, drawing out not just the philosophies but the practical steps and personal stories behind each guest’s healing. You’ll hear discussions that intersect fitness, health, societal structures, and alternative spirituality, reflecting a holistic view of human potential. The aim is to illuminate the diverse routes available for those feeling a similar pull, offering relatable narratives and insights that listeners can reflect upon in their own lives. It’s a space for deep listening and discovery, where each conversation in this podcast serves as a potential waypoint for your own exploration of a more integrated and awakened existence.
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