You're never stuck. There's another way. ACIM

You're never stuck. There's another way. ACIM

Author: Jevon Perra December 13, 2025 Duration: 46:42

Jevon Perra introduced A Course in Miracles Lesson 33, highlighting the exercise of shifting perception to resolve inner disturbance, illustrating this with a personal experience where changing their viewpoint dramatically improved a previously negative experience. Soo Kim presented a workplace conflict where their sarcastic and unauthentic response to a coworker stemmed from stress and prioritizing their workload, questioning the difference between authenticity and perception, to which Jevon Perra responded that authenticity often acts as a limiting filter that causes distress when faced with differing contextual roles. Jevon Perra then used Byron Katie's "Work" to address Soo Kim’s underlying belief of "not enough time," helping Soo Kim realize that this belief caused feelings of incompetence and outward projections, concluding that releasing this idea allows for kindness and trust that necessary tasks will be completed.


  • Course in Miracles: Lesson 33 Jevon Perra introduced Lesson 33 of A Course in Miracles workbook, "There is another way of looking at the world," and noted that they were also making lunch and chai. They described the exercise as involving five minutes in the morning and evening, alternating between casual surveying of outer perceptions and inner thoughts, while maintaining detachment and repeating the idea throughout the day (00:18:20). Perra emphasized the importance of applying the idea immediately when feeling disturbed, saying, "There's another way of looking at this" (00:20:05).
  • Personal Experience with Shifting Perception Jevon Perra shared a personal story about moving to Missouri in their 20s, believing it was what God wanted based on their grandparents' conviction, which resulted in them being depressed for three years (00:20:05). They recounted returning years later, running their own ministry in the same place with the same people and activities, yet having a vastly better experience because they viewed it as their choice and an adventure, illustrating that the difference was their perception (00:23:59). Perra concluded that anytime someone is disturbed, it is because of the way they are looking at the situation, often perceiving it as a jail, while they are simultaneously the jail, jailer, key, and prisoner (00:25:05).
  • Dealing with Workplace Conflict and Authenticity Soo Kim discussed a recent work situation where a coworker, an account manager, came to them, an underwriter, for help with a broker who was not understanding an explanation (00:25:05). Soo Kim admitted that their immediate, unauthentic response was to sarcastically offer to trade jobs, which reflected their tendency to be direct and prioritize their own quota of underwriting six new loans that day while also being stressed from finals (00:26:38) (00:34:54). Soo Kim questioned the difference between "authentic" behavior and perception, noting that they were still bothered by the interaction 24 hours later (00:27:47).
  • Perception Versus Authenticity Jevon Perra challenged Soo Kim's use of the word "authentic," suggesting that it presupposes a single, rigid way of being, whereas Perra had focused on their perception and engagement with a situation (00:27:47). Perra pointed out that viewing one's "authentic self" as rigid means any different engagement against that authentic identity would lead to distress (00:29:09). Perra argued that in a work context, an authentic self is just another filter, and internal distress arises from contextualizing a role (like dealing with sales-oriented brokers) as wrong or against what one should be doing (00:30:32).
  • Change in Work Perception Jevon Perra noted their own experience, where they quit a job and started their own business in the same office, doing the same deals and having the same conversations, but with a different perception. Specifically, they hated talking to brokers as an underwriter because they wanted data, not stories, but now, as an originator needing to close deals to survive, Perra answers every call and is willing to hear their stories, finding it interesting even if it feels like a waste of time (00:31:39). Perra highlighted that their goal shifted, and their patience increased immensely simply by putting on a different role, demonstrating that the change was internal perception, not the external situation (00:44:16).
  • Managing Disturbance and Time Constraints Soo Kim reiterated that they maintained their boundary with the account executive, informing them, "I am not a therapist and we are not running a charity," because they have a quota to meet and talking about problems is not their job (00:33:42). Jevon Perra clarified that doing one's job and being disturbed are different, emphasizing that the disturbance is internal resistance to the world as it shows up (00:36:23). Perra identified the internal resistance as the commitment to a belief, such as "I don't have enough time" (00:38:20) (00:46:35).
  • The Work of Byron Katie Applied to "Not Enough Time" Jevon Perra led Soo Kim through the "Work" by Byron Katie, focusing on the belief "There's not enough time". Soo Kim admitted they could not absolutely know for sure that there was not enough time until they reviewed all their loans, but they conceded that their perception of "no time" makes them feel incompetent. This feeling of incompetence then gets projected outward, causing them to react to others as if they are incompetent (00:53:48) (00:56:08).
  • Turning Around the Belief Jevon Perra led Soo Kim to consider the reversal of the belief, "There is enough time," asking if that could be equally or more true. Soo Kim realized that if there were enough time, they would have to confront the fact that they are not very kind to themself (00:58:44). Perra pointed out that Soo Kim still has their job after working for a year, suggesting that whatever happened, there was enough time (01:00:04). Perra emphasized that if one lets go of the idea that there is not enough time, they can trust that they will figure out how to do what is necessary and allow themself to be kind, thus avoiding a natural defensive reaction against others perceived as taking their time (01:01:10).

Freedom Through Perception Shift Jevon Perra concluded the discussion by reiterating the main point: "There is another way of looking at the world". They emphasized that the goal is not to change what other people want, but to be free with the same responsibilities (01:02:20). Perra suggested that if something feels bad, one should find the idea or judgment they are attached to, as this is what they can choose to shift (00:51:20) (01:03:38). Both participants agreed that the session was helpful for further thought and agreed on the importance of being "clear rather than nice" (00:40:33) (01:03:38).


In Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way, host Jevon Perra engages in a series of searching conversations with individuals who have navigated profound personal transformations. This podcast explores the multifaceted journey toward what many traditions term Awakening or Enlightenment, moving beyond abstract theory to focus on tangible, lived experience. Each episode introduces you to a different guide-teachers, healers, and everyday practitioners-who share the raw details of their own paths through physical ailments, emotional turmoil, mental challenges, and spiritual seeking. Jevon’s approach is grounded and curious, drawing out not just the philosophies but the practical steps and personal stories behind each guest’s healing. You’ll hear discussions that intersect fitness, health, societal structures, and alternative spirituality, reflecting a holistic view of human potential. The aim is to illuminate the diverse routes available for those feeling a similar pull, offering relatable narratives and insights that listeners can reflect upon in their own lives. It’s a space for deep listening and discovery, where each conversation in this podcast serves as a potential waypoint for your own exploration of a more integrated and awakened existence.
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