#162 - Empowering PwDR Using Research Education with Daniel Gottlieb of Microsoft

#162 - Empowering PwDR Using Research Education with Daniel Gottlieb of Microsoft

Author: User Interviews March 12, 2025 Duration: 48:37

Many research activities are completed by non-researchers, but whose work is benefited from user insights. Generally, these folks—designers, PMs, developers, among others—are called "PwDR" or "people who do research." In addition to their own work, many UX researchers and operations specialists are focusing on educating and empowering this group. When stakeholders and colleagues are better informed on the hows and whys of user research, more of it gets done, more insights are integrated, and customer experiences improve.

Daniel Gottlieb, Head of Research Operation for Microsoft's Developer Division, has spent a lot of time designing research education programs. He joins to discuss his success creating workshops that empower and inspire non-researchers to get involved. He shares the parts of a good workshop, ways to keep attendees engaged, and how he measures success.

This is a revealing conversation for anyone who has wondered what successfully "democratizing" user research could look like. Daniel brings pragmatism and positivity to research education. You'll leave with a better sense of how to begin educating your own stakeholders on the power of user research, and maybe even get a democratization practice up and running.

Highlights 

  • 12:12 - Empowering UX Researchers Multiplies Impact  
  • 17:21 - Collaborative Research and Customer Insights 
  • 22:08 - Guided Customer Research Workshops  
  • 27:22 - Building Excitement Through Coaching  
  • 36:38 - Benefits of Diverse Group Dynamics 
  • 38:25 - Empowering Developer-Led Research Showcase 

About Daniel
Daniel Gottlieb is the Head of Research Operations for Microsoft’s Developer Division User Research Group. He received his PhD in Animal Behavior from the University of California, Davis, where he focused on animal welfare (quality of life) and primate (monkey) behavior.  Daniel moved from researching monkey behavior, to managing research logistics at a National Primate Research Center, to managing UX Research Operations in Microsoft’s Developer Division. He is passionate about making research easy and accessible, teaching, and finding ways for disparate groups to work together to support a unified research mission.

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