Mindfulness: The Data Inside Your Skin (Ft. Sean Sawyer)

Mindfulness: The Data Inside Your Skin (Ft. Sean Sawyer)

Author: China Shop Productions March 7, 2025 Duration: 58:51

In this episode of The Humanity of Trading, Kyle, Cleo, and returning guest Sean Sawyer from Sound Performance Psychology dive deep into mindfulness and trading psychology—not as a feel-good buzzword, but as a practical, game-changing skill. Sean explains why mindfulness isn’t about “feeling better” but about getting better at feeling—a crucial distinction for traders managing emotions, impulse control, and decision-making under pressure.

The conversation explores how traders can recognize and detach from destructive thought patterns, avoid emotional trading, and develop true discipline. Sean also leads a powerful mindfulness exercise designed to help traders build impulse control—turning awareness into an edge.

With real talk, humor, and practical applications, this episode will challenge how you think about trading psychology and help you build the mental resilience needed for long-term success.

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About Sean:

Sean Sawyer, a licensed psychotherapist since 2003, whose journey into the world of stock trading in the mid-2010s led him to become a full-time trader by 2017. Sean’s unique expertise lies at the intersection of psychology and trading, blending his in-depth understanding of human behavior with practical trading experience in shared trading commons, options, and futures.

Sean’s work in psychological trauma has been pivotal in shaping his approach to performance psychology. With a rich background in clinical settings, hospitals, universities, and private practice, he excels in helping individuals manage real and perceived threats—skills that are crucial for decision-making in high-pressure situations. His performance coaching, which began in 2010, spans corporate professionals, athletes, and performers, focusing on the mastery of threat response and resilience.

Known for his candid, evidence-based approach, Sean emphasizes the importance of confronting and transforming deep-seated patterns and beliefs. His performance coaching bridges the challenges of psychological resilience and high-stakes decision-making, offering invaluable insights for thriving in both personal and professional arenas.

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About Cleo:

Cleo has been learning to trade for the past 3 years and is an active member of the Vanta community. She came to trading through the angle of personal development, and she sees trading as an amazing way to get to know oneself as well as expand one's capacities. Cleo's professional background is in leadership development and facilitation. She has facilitated thousands to communicate in authentic and compelling ways. She loves being in the seat of curiosity. Cleo has worked with executives, corporate groups, religious groups, middle school students, groups of women, families, and couples. Her current focus is the CA criminal legal system, advocating for holistic approaches such as restorative justice and community-based violence prevention. Having played in the crypto and futures markets for the last three years, Cleo sees trading as one of the most challenging things to undertake and is particularly interested in what it takes to become a consistently profitable and well-rounded trader.

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