How to Get Your Team to Start Prototyping with AI | Jeremy Epling (CPO Vanta)

How to Get Your Team to Start Prototyping with AI | Jeremy Epling (CPO Vanta)

Author: Peter Yang August 3, 2025 Duration: 43:11

Today, I want to share a new episode with Jeremy Epling.

Jeremy is the CPO of Vanta and former VP of Product at Github. He showed me the exact template that he used to get his entire team to prototype with AI, his favorite AI workflows for PM work, and why now might be the best time to be an IC PM. We also did a deep dive on how Vanta ran AI evaluations for their new AI agent.

Jeremy and I talked about:(00:00) Why prototypes beat PRDs

(01:43) The exact template that got his entire PM team prototyping

(05:14) From prototype to product: live demo of Vanta’s AI agent

(08:56) How to run prototype-first product reviews

(12:47) Top AI workflows that save Jeremy hours each week

(19:08) Is now the best time to be an IC PM?

(25:03) Advice for big tech PMs facing industry changes

(30:35) Separating the hype from craft for AI products

(36:16) Deep dive on AI evaluations for AI agents

Where to find Jeremy:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-epling-j40/

Website: https://vanta.com Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-get-your-team-to-start-prototyping-with-ai-jeremy-vanta📌 Subscribe to this channel – more interviews coming soon!


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