The Secret Language of Work with Erin McGoff EP 451

The Secret Language of Work with Erin McGoff EP 451

Author: iHeartPodcasts March 24, 2026 Duration: 45:15

Erin McGoff has built a career around helping people (especially women!) learn the secret language of work -- the ways to give yourself the best shot of moving in the career direction you desire with the right choice of words, actions, and body language. Sarah and Laura open by discussing their own specialized work languages - medicine and writing - and then Sarah interviews Erin, focusing on ways to have tough but effective conversations around things like asking for more flexibility, improved compensation, or even gracefully leaving a role.

In the Q&A, a listeners asks for details around virtual assistants.

Erin McGoff's book is called The Secret Language of Work and is out now wherever books are sold.

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For anyone trying to navigate the complex, rewarding, and often messy intersection of professional ambition and family life, the Best of Both Worlds Podcast offers a grounded, practical conversation. Hosts Laura Vanderkam, a time management author and mother of five, and Sarah Hart-Unger, a practicing physician and mom of three, bring their distinct yet complementary experiences to the table. Their discussions move beyond abstract ideals to tackle the real-world logistics of career development, efficient parenting, and intentional time management. Each episode feels like a candid chat with two friends who have been there, focusing on actionable strategies for productivity without sacrificing personal joy or connection. This isn't about achieving a perfect balance, but about building a fulfilling, sustainable life where both work and family can thrive. Produced by iHeartPodcasts, the podcast provides thoughtful perspectives on creating a meaningful structure for your weeks and years, always with an eye toward making space for what truly matters. You'll find their approach both reassuring and motivating, as they dissect common challenges and share what has-and hasn't-worked in their own busy lives. Listening to this podcast is like getting actionable advice from a trusted source who understands that loving your career and loving your family are not mutually exclusive goals, but parts of a whole, integrated life.
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