Space To Exhale – with Lisa Hurley

Space To Exhale – with Lisa Hurley

Author: Carolyn Kiel July 21, 2025 Duration: 40:39

Lisa Hurley is an Anthem award-winning activist and author of the new book, "Space To Exhale: A Handbook For Curating A Soft, Centered, Serene Life." She is also the Founder of The Great Exhale, a serene virtual community focused on sisterhood and soft living, where Black women can relax, lay their burdens down—and exhale. Her advocacy converges at the nexus of self-care, community care, joy, and rest.

During this episode, you will hear Lisa talk about:

  • How she realized that she is autistic, and what her life is like as a Black, autistic woman
  • How autistic burnout inspired her to write "Space to Exhale," and the guidance she provides in her book
  • The importance of having a community while taking care of yourself 
  • "Life-Work Balance" vs "Work-Life Balance"
  • What it means to prioritize "soft living"

Find out more about Lisa and her book at SpaceToExhaleBook.com and follow Lisa on Instagram, TikTok and LinkedIn.

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