Recap: Preston Van Winkle Interview and #Bourbon Talk; Ep. 84  #pappyvanwinkle #buffalotrace

Recap: Preston Van Winkle Interview and #Bourbon Talk; Ep. 84 #pappyvanwinkle #buffalotrace

Author: Bourbon, Brass & Beyond September 6, 2026 Duration: 56:42

Dan and Bob are joined by Alex Derthick for a recap of their interview with Preston Van Winkle from the Old Rip Van Winkle family. They break down what made the visit memorable, what they learned about the Pappy Van Winkle lineage, and why the experience was bigger than just tasting rare bourbon. They also get into bottle comparisons, barrel picks, and the science and history behind the juice.

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Key topics

In this episode: the team recaps the Preston Van Winkle interview and the frustration of losing most of the inside audio after the recording

Alex shares why the experience still felt worthwhile because of Preston’s openness, the family history, and the chance to talk through the lineup in person.

The group discusses how down-to-earth Preston was, including his willingness to sign bottles and spend time talking family, philanthropy, and the history of the brand.

Preston’s tasting advice gets highlighted, especially the reminder not to swirl too aggressively and to blow off the top before nosing. They discuss secondary-market prices, collector culture, and why the Van Winkle family keeps pricing grounded rather than chasing hype

The crew compares several bottles from their own collections, including Old Rip, Lot B, Eagle Rare 17, Stagg, Taylor Four Grain, William Larue Weller, and Elijah Craig 15

Timestamps

00:00 - Recapping the Preston Van Winkle visit and the lost audio

00:31 - Two and a half hours of great conversation, gone after playback failure

01:54 - Why Preston and the family’s openness made the experience special

02:23 - A closer look at family history, brand changes, and the low-key office setting

03:28 - How the Van Winkle legacy became so revered

05:28 - Signing the 23-year bottle and why the 15-year stands out

06:34 - The Lot B lesson and the surprise re-recording attempt

07:43 - Preston’s bottle-guessing skill and the value of small sensory cues

08:15 - Why Preston came across as one of the most down-to-earth people in bourbon

16:19 - Independent Stave, barrel char science, and flavor extraction

18:47 - Bernheim juice versus Buffalo Trace juice and the spicier finish

19:40 - Opening the Lot B and the Eagle Rare 17 memories

22:11 - Real family photos, family trees, and the story behind the history

23:39 - Preston’s line about pouring bourbon down people’s throats

24:05 - Bourbon as connection, not resale, and why the bottle is secondary

26:17 - Sazerac rye picks, proofing decisions, and barrel-strength preference

27:26 - Why picks are proofed down after selection

31:03 - Dusties, Old Fitzgerald, and the Molson Canadian export oddity

36:29 - Rock Hill Farms, Mash Bill No. 2, and Hancock’s Reserve

40:38 - The Browns trading Miles Garrett and a quick sports detour

45:40 - How heat and evaporation may impact barrel yields

51:07 - Lot B history, the old store-pick concept, and premium-brand pricing

52:30 - The secondary market, flippers, and frustration with markup

54:04 - Why the 15-year remains the “juice is worth the squeeze” bottle

55:43 - The Van Winkle rye story and why it is the rarest bottling

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Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery - https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com

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Alex Derthick - IG: @captalex8


There’s a particular warmth that comes from good company, a shared pour, and a great story. That’s the feeling at the heart of Bourbon, Brass & Beyond, a podcast hosted by neighbors Bob and Dan. Their friendship frames each conversation, blending two distinct worlds into something uniquely engaging. Bob brings his relentless passion for tracking down remarkable bourbons, a pursuit he balances with being a dad and his role in operations management. Dan offers a different rhythm, drawn from a life spent mastering the trumpet and navigating the skies as an airline pilot, all while raising his own family. This isn’t a formal review show or a technical flight log. Instead, it’s where the hunt for a perfect bottle meets the soulful notes of a brass section and tales from travels high above the clouds. They often open their personal collections, sharing tastes and thoughts with each other and with guests, making every episode feel like an invitation to pull up a chair. The result is a natural exploration of life’s richer flavors and soundtracks. You’ll hear conversations that meander from the nuances of a specific distiller’s craft to the unexpected lessons learned between cities, all underscored by a deep appreciation for the hobbies and moments that define us. Tune in for a podcast that genuinely connects the spirit of bourbon with the music of everyday adventures.
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