089: Midwestern Shame Spirals

089: Midwestern Shame Spirals

Author: Jess Birken, MNM, JD June 22, 2023 Duration: 17:54

In this episode of Charity Therapy, Meghan and I dive into the often-misunderstood world of conflicts of interest in nonprofits. What is a conflict, really? Is it a terrible, horrible, egregious situation to be avoided at all costs?! Hint: no! Not all conflicts are evil, and not everything people call a conflict of interest actually is one.. In this episode, you'll learn what to do (and what not to do) when a conflict of interest comes up in your nonprofit work.

We'll also tackle a listener's question about a board member's support of another organization - is that a conflict? Plus, what happens when board members and staff members are all the same people? 

Don't miss this episode that will help you better understand and manage nonprofit conflicts of interest! Whether you're a seasoned nonprofit pro or just dipping your toes into the world of charitable organizations, we're here to help guide you through these tricky waters with empathy, humor, and practical advice.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • What is a conflict of interest
  • What's NOT a conflict of interest
  • The problems that can come up when a board member is also paid staff
  • The importance of due diligence when you're thinking about joining a nonprofit board
  • Why you NEED a solid conflicts policy

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Ever find yourself wishing for a direct line to seasoned nonprofit leaders, a chance to unpack the real challenges that don’t make it into the glossy annual reports? Charity Therapy is that conversation. With host Jess Birken, who brings her background as a lawyer and a Master of Nonprofit Management to the table, each session feels like pulling up a chair with a trusted advisor. The discussions move beyond theory, tackling the granular details of operations that leaders actually face-whether it’s navigating a tricky IRS compliance question, rebuilding a fundraising strategy from the ground up, or managing the complex interpersonal dynamics that define any mission-driven team. This podcast digs into the operational heart of the sector, offering pragmatic insights you can apply directly to your own work. It’s a resource built on the understanding that running a nonprofit is a continuous practice of problem-solving, and Jess guides these explorations with clarity and a deep respect for the work. Tune in for honest dialogue that treats the daily grind of management as the serious and nuanced craft that it is.
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