David Chitta and Michelle Made on Zanzalu and Life Inside a Pop-Up City

David Chitta and Michelle Made on Zanzalu and Life Inside a Pop-Up City

Author: Mark Lutter July 1, 2026 Duration: 20:16

What is a pop-up city, and what does it actually look like on the ground?

In Episode 82 of the Charter Cities Podcast, Mark Lutter speaks with David Chitta and Michelle Made about Zanzalu, a three-week co-living and co-working pop-up city hosted in Fumba Town, Zanzibar.

They unpack what a pop-up city actually is and what makes the experience unique: shared breakfasts, spontaneous workshops, game nights, student programming, residencies, and the kinds of relationships that continue long after the event ends.

The conversation also explores why Zanzibar and Fumba Town are a natural setting for a pop-up city, what kinds of people tend to attend, and how Zanzalu is evolving in 2026. This year’s edition includes the Zanzalu Idea Zone in partnership with FuTopia, an art residency on Swahili futurism, and the Vanguard residency for emerging African leaders and thinkers.

If you’ve been curious about Zanzalu, pop-up cities, or new models for building community and collaboration, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at what Zanzalu is, who it’s for, and why it keeps people coming back.


Imagine a new city, built from the ground up with a unique set of rules designed to foster innovation, economic growth, and a better quality of life. This isn't just a thought experiment; it's the concept of a charter city, and it's the central focus of the Charter Cities Podcast. Hosted by Mark Lutter, these conversations dig into the practical and philosophical questions surrounding these ambitious urban projects. How might they address pressing global issues like rapid urbanization, entrenched poverty, and the complex dynamics of migration? To find answers, Lutter sits down with a diverse array of thinkers and practitioners. You'll hear from specialists in international development, urban planners, investors, entrepreneurs, and governance experts, each bringing a crucial piece of the puzzle. The discussions are grounded and detailed, moving beyond theory to examine the real-world mechanics of financing, building, and governing new cities. This podcast doesn't offer simple solutions, but rather provides a nuanced exploration of a bold idea for human organization. It's for anyone curious about the future of cities, the intersection of policy and innovation, or the structures that shape our collective lives. Through these in-depth interviews, the Charter Cities Podcast builds a comprehensive understanding of a concept that could redefine how communities are built in the coming century.
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