Charting the Territories Oct '21: Jack and Bobby

Charting the Territories Oct '21: Jack and Bobby

Author: Al Getz October 28, 2021 Duration: 2:08:48

Hosts Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at the 2nd quarter of 1965 in the McGuirk territory, the 4th quarter of 1981 in Mid-South, and the 3rd quarter of 1973 in Mid-Atlantic, plus Part 3 of Al's interview with Mississippi promoter Gil Culkin.


Charting The Territories is a deep dive into the sprawling, fragmented world of professional wrestling before national expansion reshaped the industry. Hosts Al Getz and Jon Boucher reunite each month to explore a specific region and time period, from Memphis to Minneapolis, from World Class to the AWA. Their approach is distinct, blending rich historical narrative with a unique statistical bent that examines attendance figures, championship lineages, and the business metrics that powered these local fiefdoms. You’ll hear detailed breakdowns of key events, the promoters and bookers who shaped the action, and how the in-ring product evolved in different corners of the continent. This podcast is for fans who want to move beyond the well-trodden stories and understand the how and why of wrestling’s territorial era, appreciating the local flavors and economic realities that created the stars and stories we remember today. The analysis is thorough yet accessible, offering a fresh perspective on a foundational period. Listening to an episode of this podcast feels like sitting down with two deeply knowledgeable historians who are as passionate about the context and data as they are about the body slams and interview segments, making the past feel vividly present.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 55

Charting The Territories
Podcast Episodes
Sep '25: The Road Goes on Forever and the Party Never Ends [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 3:23:26
On the final episode of Charting the Territories, Al Getz and Jon Boucher are joined by Chad Olson plus a surprise guest. They discuss the second stage of Bobby Shane's pro wrestling career and his emergence as a major s…
Aug '25: Bobby Shane, Baby! [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:06:05
This month's episode begins with some INCREDIBLE personal news from Jon Boucher! Then, he and Al Getz are joined by Chad Olson for the entire episode. The podcast delves into the first six years in the pro wrestling care…
Jul '25: The Clown Who Took a Duck and Became a Lord [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:39:49
This month, Al Getz and Jon Boucher discuss some of the little persons prevalent in pro wrestling in the early 1970s. They're joined by author David Gibb and focus on Lord Littlebrook, recapping his life and his journey…
Jun '25: Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:33:28
This month's podcast begins with an announcement from Al Getz about the future of Charting the Territories. Then, Al and Jon Boucher talk about women's wrestling in the early 1970s, going over many of the notable ladies…
May '25: Beneath the Glitter and Gleam [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:12:04
This month Al & Jon look at the early pro wrestling career of "Superstar" Billy Graham, from his earliest documented matches in Stampede to his time in Southern California and then all the way to Japan, it a look at THE…
Apr '25: April Hammers Bring May Valentines [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:48:06
This month, Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at some of the early stops in the career of Greg Valentine, charting his path in the early 1970s on his way to stardom. Plus, Jon Plays Gordon Solie's Championship Wrestling again…
Mar '25: Hangin' with Hangman Bobby Jaggers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:51:10
This month, Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at the life and wrestling career of "Hangman" Bobby Jaggers, They focus on his runs in the Gulas territory, Western States (Amarillo), and Northern California (Shire) in 1974-75.…
Feb '25: Hans Across America [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:27:14
This month, Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at two wrestlers who found great success in the territorial era as foreign heels named Hans. First, they look at Hans Mortier, focusing on his '69-'70 run in East Texas as Lord Ch…
Jan '25: Two Butchers and a Boucher [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:08:17
This month, Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at Abdullah the Butcher and Paul "Butcher" Vachon, focusing on the territories they wrestled for in 1970 and 1971. ThIs leads to a discussion of the Montreal wrestling war that be…
Dec '24: The Selbyville Screwjob [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:17:16
This month Al Getz and Jon Boucher look at the WWWF in 1971, including one of the most shocking title changes in wrestling history! They discuss the circumstances around Ivan Koloff defeating Bruno Sammartino, plus some…