254: Blending as Maker Like Chef | Albemarle

254: Blending as Maker Like Chef | Albemarle

Author: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist January 6, 2021 Duration: 42:32

Blending as Maker like Chef

Blending is a key part of cidermaking. It can take place at the pressing of the apple juice prior to ferment or after the cider has finished fermenting. Knowing when to blend is not something you can learn from reading a book, because is not a strict science. To blend well requires a fine palate, a developed nose and a bounty of apple knowledge.

Makers are much like chefs in a kitchen. They both may be following a recipe, but the final product is reliant upon their own palate and understanding of the ingredients. Michelin Star chefs don't happen over night and neither do fine cidermakers.

Featured Guest in this Episode 254

For this episode on blending, I wanted to hear from Chuck Shelton of Albemarle Ciderworks & Vintage Virginia Apples. Chuck credits author of Apples of North America: Exceptional Varieties for Gardeners, Growers, and Cooks Tom Burford (1935-2020) a champion of heirloom apples and author of  Ben Watson author of Cider, Hard and Sweet: History, Traditions, and Making Your Own (Second Edition) and Peter J.Hatch, author of The Fruits and Fruit Trees of Monticello who also happens to be a professional gardener and historian in the restoration care at Thomas Jefferson's Monticello.

Albemarle produces both single varietal ciders and blends. I have found the ciders from this Virginia cidery that is family owned to be perfectly balanced representation of what Chuck refers to as American Cider.

Chuck Shelton of Albemarle Ciderworks Chuck Shelton

Also joining this chat is maker David Timmerman. Chuck wanted David to join in because as he puts it, "His palate is better than mine."

David Timmerman Filling Albemarle Press David Timmerman Filling Albemarle Press

I met David myself at the 2018 CiderCon in Baltimore, Maryland and then again when he came along on the 2018 Normandy Cider Tour that I led via Totally Cider Tours. Like Chuck, I agree that David has an exemplary palate and is just simply a fine person - making this working relationship at Albemarle a perfect blend.

David Timmerman Pressing Red Flesh 2019 David Pressing Red Flesh 2019

Contact info for Albemarle Ciderworks and Vintage Virginia Apples

Tasting Room and Information

2545 Rural Ridge Lane
North Garden, VA  22959
Tasting Room Hours and Information

Office Phone: 434.297.2326
Tasting Room Phone: 434.979.1663
Email: fruit@albemarleciderworks.com

Mentions in this Chat

CiderCon2021 February 3-5, 2021 - A virtual trade conference for the cider industry hosted by the American Cider Association

New York International Cider Competition - February 21, 2021 3rd Annual New York International Cider Competition for commercial makers. Judges are real buyers making this competition stand apart from all others in cider. Send in your ciders now.

Fermentis by Lesaffre -This week's Q&A with Kevin Lane from Fermentis:

  • Q: Does Fermentis have liquid and dry yeast for sale and what is the difference?

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There’s a whole world in a glass of cider, and Cider Chat is your invitation to explore it. Hosted by award-winning cidermaker and writer Ria Windcaller, this podcast travels far beyond the bottle to meet the people who make the global cider culture so vibrant. Each conversation is a journey-you might find yourself in a heritage orchard learning the history of forgotten apple varieties, in a bustling taproom with an importer explaining regional traditions, or in a kitchen with a chef pairing cider with unexpected foods. The discussions get into the delightful nuances, too, whether that’s the semantics of what we even call this drink or how the concept of terroir translates from soil to sip. It’s not just about production; it’s about the community, the travel, and the stories that fermentation unlocks. This is for anyone curious about the craft, history, and sheer enjoyment of fermented apple juice in all its forms. So, pour a glass and settle in for a series that feels like a wide-ranging, informative, and genuinely good-humored chat with friends who happen to be obsessed with cider. You’ll come away with a deeper appreciation for every effervescent, tart, or sweet sip, hearing directly from the growers, makers, and enthusiasts who are shaping this drink’s exciting present and future.
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