368: Who named this apple Northern Spy?

368: Who named this apple Northern Spy?

Author: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist May 10, 2023 Duration: 51:30

Spy Novels Step Aside for an Apple of a Tale

The Northern Spy is a delightful apple used both for baking and cidermaking! At one time it was a major export commodity due to its lack of bruising when packed in barrels. As far as apples go it is a winner for so many reasons, yet no one knows why it is named Northern Spy. there are certainly many hyposthesis on the subject. In episode 226: Northern Spy and the Underground Railroad Ryan Monkman of Fieldbird Cider reads a fictional essay on the topic (do listen as it is grand).

Ep 368 Cider Chat Kerry Wilkins Kerry Anne Wilkins

In this episode we hear from Apple Sleuth or self proclaimed "Malus Absurdum" Kerry Anne Wilkins who is on the trail of the Northern Spy. Professionally Kerry works as a hospice nurse, but her love of apples and set her on a journey to find the story behind the naming of the Northern Spy.

Ep 368 cider chat Herman Chapin headstone 200x300 Herman Chapin is responsible for propagating the Northern Spy

In this Chat

  • Meeting the John Bunkers, a premier Apple Detective
  • What we know so far about the Northern Spy's history
  • Apple Sleuthing tips
    • Libraries
    • Oral History
    • Newspaper
    • Cemeteries
    • Land maps
  • Tracking the Northern Spy to East Bloomfield, New York
  • A Martha Steward faux pas that needed to be corrected
  • The Northern Spy marker in East Bloomfield
  • Herman Chapin and the Chapin family connection to the Northern Spy

]Northern Spy marker 200x300 East Bloomfield road marker reads:

The original Northern Spy Apple Tree Stood about 14 Rods south of this spot in a seedling orchard.
Planted by Herman Chapin about 1800
The Early Joe and Melon Apple also originated in this orchard.

The quest continues

Kerry is still on the quest to discover the history of the Northern Spy and hopefully the reason why this apple was named as such. If you have info please send it along her way. Recipes, book mentions, oral tales are all welcomed.

Contact info for Kerry Anne Wilkins

email: kawwilkins@yahoo.com

Want Kerry's postal address to send a letter? Contact info@ciderchat.com

Mentions in this Chat

  • Listen to episode 290 with Tattiebolge CiderWorks Acme, Pennsylvania - as mentioned in this episode it is building out!
  • Canuck Cider Cup winners for 2023
  • Who is John Bunker America's Apple Detective? There are many episodes with John feature. Begin with this one  https://ciderchat.com/028-john-bunker-apple-identification/ and then google Cider Chat John Bunker for more from this American treasure of a man!
  • Bottles on My Desk - Listen to the latest episode at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel via playlist "bottles on my desk"

There’s a whole world in a glass of cider, and Cider Chat is your invitation to explore it. Hosted by award-winning cidermaker and writer Ria Windcaller, this podcast travels far beyond the bottle to meet the people who make the global cider culture so vibrant. Each conversation is a journey-you might find yourself in a heritage orchard learning the history of forgotten apple varieties, in a bustling taproom with an importer explaining regional traditions, or in a kitchen with a chef pairing cider with unexpected foods. The discussions get into the delightful nuances, too, whether that’s the semantics of what we even call this drink or how the concept of terroir translates from soil to sip. It’s not just about production; it’s about the community, the travel, and the stories that fermentation unlocks. This is for anyone curious about the craft, history, and sheer enjoyment of fermented apple juice in all its forms. So, pour a glass and settle in for a series that feels like a wide-ranging, informative, and genuinely good-humored chat with friends who happen to be obsessed with cider. You’ll come away with a deeper appreciation for every effervescent, tart, or sweet sip, hearing directly from the growers, makers, and enthusiasts who are shaping this drink’s exciting present and future.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 501

Cider Chat
Podcast Episodes
287: Elizabeth Ryan | Hudson Valley Farmhouse Cider, NY [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:33
"Every hand that touches the apple has a story to tell." Who is Elizabeth Ryan? She is the founder of Hudson Valley Farmhouse Cider, but that is only part of the story. At heart she is a farmer having grown up in Iowa on…
286: A Living Language for Cider [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:14:09
The quest to find the Language of Cider Richie Brady is a graduate of the Wine & Spirit Education Trust (WSET) who also happens to have a love of cider. This scholarly Irishman used his shelter in place time during Covid…
285: Cider Chat | Cider's Media Part 4 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:38
Who is Cider Chat? In Part 4 of this series on Cider's Media it is time to talk about Cider Chat - the podcast that is hosting this series! As you listen to this episode you will hear Ria discussing and reading from her…
284: Cider Scene | Cider's Media Pt3 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:54
Who is Cider Scene? Identical twins Trevor and Nolan O'Malley launched Cider Scene in 2016. They describe it as not quite a publication, but more of a "focused blog", marketing company, and a little bit of a publication.…
283: Cidercraft Magazine | Who is Cider's Media Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 47:41
Who is Cidercraft Magazine Cidercraft Magazine was launched in 2014 and provides a wide array of articles on the topic of cider. Kristin Ackerman Bacon the Founder of Cidercraft is not a newbie to the publishing world ha…
282: Cider Culture | Who is Cider's Media Pt 1 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 41:33
Who is Cider Culture Mary Bigham Owner and Publisher of Dishworks LLC, founded Cider Culture in 2014 which is an online publication that has weekly cider news post for newbie cider fans to commercial makers. Mary is a Pe…
281: Cider Fueled Road Trip to NY and PA [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:05:23
Cider Fueled Road Trip Day 1 This episode begins on a road trip to New York state, specifically the west side of the Hudson River to Stone Ridge Orchards one of the three farms that is under the umbrella of Hudson Valley…
280: The Cidermaker's Fuzzy Slippers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 37:50
Grab the slippers, the house is on fire! In February of 2021, Nicole and Felix Todd had a chimney fire at the their home and the damage done made it unlivable. Having a fire even in the best of times is an ordeal, but du…
279: Apology to the Billionaire Cidermaker [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 37:57
An Apology? By a Cider Judge Busted! I am the cider judge who has been holding onto a memory from nearly 20 years ago. At that time there were very few commercial makers of cider and in turn there were very few entries i…
278: Still Fishing [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:31
Gone Fishing Ok, so maybe I'm not full on fishing this week, but if I get a chance you know where I will be - out on the water with my fishing pole...actually the heat is so high this week that maybe I will just take a f…