485: Cider as a Catalyst for Chile's Edible Forest

485: Cider as a Catalyst for Chile's Edible Forest

Author: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist January 7, 2026 Duration: 57:14

Carlos Flores is an architect, landscape designer, and co-founder of Punta de Fierro Fine Cider. At the 2025 CiderCon in Chicago he presented Carlos presented "Developing An Experimental Edible Forest in a Heritage Apple Orchard." - this episode features his full presentaiton and you will also find his audio synced with all the power point slides at the Cider Chat YouTube Channel.

Find full shownotes to this episode at https://ciderchat.com/podcast/485-chile-edible-forest-cider/

00:00 Intro to Cider Chat - news

00:49 Carlos Flores and the Edible Forest

01:43 The Rich History of Chilean Cider

04:03 Upcoming Cider Events and Tours

08:41 Carlos Flores' Journey and Vision

18:40 Creating the Edible Forest

30:59 Bees and Flowers

31:08 Meteorological Station and Climate Change

32:24 Community Involvement and Workshops

33:37 Greenhouse and New Trees

34:12 Summer School and Neighbor's Orchard

36:17 Building a Cider House

37:47 Biofilter and Water Management

39:32 Community Impact and Economic Development

41:34 Pruning and Tree Management

43:14 Future Plans and Experiments

50:22 Funding and Government Grants

55:30 Final Thoughts and Conclusion

Contact info for Carlos of Punta de Fierro Cider

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There’s a whole world in a glass of cider, and Cider Chat is your invitation to explore it. Hosted by award-winning cidermaker and writer Ria Windcaller, this podcast travels far beyond the bottle to meet the people who make the global cider culture so vibrant. Each conversation is a journey-you might find yourself in a heritage orchard learning the history of forgotten apple varieties, in a bustling taproom with an importer explaining regional traditions, or in a kitchen with a chef pairing cider with unexpected foods. The discussions get into the delightful nuances, too, whether that’s the semantics of what we even call this drink or how the concept of terroir translates from soil to sip. It’s not just about production; it’s about the community, the travel, and the stories that fermentation unlocks. This is for anyone curious about the craft, history, and sheer enjoyment of fermented apple juice in all its forms. So, pour a glass and settle in for a series that feels like a wide-ranging, informative, and genuinely good-humored chat with friends who happen to be obsessed with cider. You’ll come away with a deeper appreciation for every effervescent, tart, or sweet sip, hearing directly from the growers, makers, and enthusiasts who are shaping this drink’s exciting present and future.
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