Eli Brown & Jonathan Ellsworth: Can We Change a White-Wine Hater’s Mind?

Eli Brown & Jonathan Ellsworth: Can We Change a White-Wine Hater’s Mind?

Author: BLISTER February 21, 2025 Duration: 1:26:14

Jonathan Ellsworth’s preferences for red wines over white wines are well established. But in this conversation and wine tasting, we’re going to see if Eli can change Jonathan’s mind.

This past weekend, Jonathan and Eli opened four bottles of white wines and hit the record button. We tried a few different white varietals and blends that Eli believes may appeal to those staunchly in the red-wine camp to see if we can get Jonathan more interested in what certain white wines have to offer.

We’ve also included links to the four wines we tasted if you’d like to try any of these for yourself.

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The Wines We’re Tasting:

Poet’s Leap Riesling

K Vintners Viognier

Kiki and Juan Orange Wine

Daniel-Etienne Defaix Chablis

TOPICS & TIMES:

The White Wine Experience (3:36)

JE''s Bottle of White He Likes? (3:36)

What Reds Does JE Like? (7:07)

Sweet Wines (11:35)

White Burgundy Flavor (13:01)

Riesling (14:27)

Scotch (17:57)

Red vs White: the Simple Differences (21:30)

Champagne (26:10)

Aeration (38:52)

Wine Anchoring Memories (44:32)

Wine with or w/o Food (47:48)

Orange Wine (51:34)

Jonathan’s Final Thoughts (1:13:09)

Eli's Final Thoughts (1:20:10)

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