S4 - Episode 007 – Reality Distortion is so Freakin' Real! (w/ Winn Schwartau)

S4 - Episode 007 – Reality Distortion is so Freakin' Real! (w/ Winn Schwartau)

Author: Jason Popillion and Kevin Pentecost July 2, 2025 Duration: 1:50:18

In this riveting episode of Cyber Distortion, hosts Kevin Pentecost and Jason Popillion sit down with none other than Winn Schwartau — the legendary cybersecurity pioneer and provocateur known for pulling no punches when it comes to the truth.

A trailblazer in information warfare and the original mind behind DEFCON Jeopardy, Winn dives deep into the murky waters of misinformation, disinformation, and the global implications of distorted digital realities. From nation-state psyops to corporate manipulation campaigns, we explore how the war over truth is being waged on battlefields both virtual and real.

But it wouldn't be Cyber Distortion without a twist. We wrap the episode with our own chaotic spin on Cyber Distortion Jeopardy, putting Winn — the Godfather of DEFCON Jeopardy himself — back in the hot seat. Expect sharp insights, dark humor, and plenty of digital distortion as we challenge Winn's wit and memory.

Whether you're a cybersecurity veteran or just starting to question what's real in your feed, this episode will leave you thinking twice about the information you trust.

Jason Popillion is a CISSP and serves as a CIO/CTO of a SaaS company and Kevin Pentecost is a CISSP, CISM, CEH, CPT, MPCS, MCSE, CCA, ITIL-F and serves as the Information Security Director for a Manufacturing company.

 

🔹 Winn Schwartau – Official & Contact


🔹 Essential Articles & Background on Winn

  • Wired (1996) – Classic article Information Warrior describes his perspective on national cyber threats and "magnetic bombs": wired.com
  • InfoWorld & Network World – Opinion pieces by Winn on global info‑war and cyber defense: infoworld.com+1networkworld.com+1

🔹 Books by Winn Schwartau

Here's a direct link where you can purchase Winn Schwartau's newest book The Art & Science of Metawar, available in paperback:

  • The Art & Science ofMetawar(paperback) – listed around$25used/new‑low via eBay/AbeBooks.
  • You can also purchase or preview it through these official sources:
  • Amazon Paperback & Kindle Paperback
  • AbeBooks — Used paperback editions, ISBN0996401946, published August30,2024 by WinnSchwartauLLC thriftbooks.com+2abebooks.com+2

 


🔹 Broader Reading on Misinformation & Disinformation

  • Technology‑Enabled Disinformation (arXiv, 2018) – a rich survey of digital disinformation mechanics and defense strategies: arxiv.org
  • Cambridge Handbook (Chapter: Misinformation, Disinformation & Online Propaganda) – analysis of spread dynamics and trust erosion: cambridge.org+1reddit.com+1
  • Political Behavior (2020) – study on how misinformation‑warnings can backfire (the "tainted truth" effect): link.springer.com
  • Love Letter to America (PDF) – Read it here.
  • Severance (2022) – The show revolves around employees of the mysterious biotechnology corporation Lumon Industries, who have undergone a surgical procedure called "severance" that separates their work memories from their personal life. This means their "innie" (work self) has no knowledge of their "outie" (personal life) and vice versa.

Watch it on AppleTV.


Ever feel like the world of cybersecurity is explained in a language only experts understand? That's exactly why Cyber Distortion Podcast Series exists. Hosts Jason Popillion and Kevin Pentecost, both seasoned professionals who hold top certifications like the CISSP, cut through the jargon and distortion to talk about digital safety in clear, practical terms. Each episode feels like a conversation with two colleagues who have been in the trenches-Jason as a CIO/CTO and Kevin as an Information Security Manager-and who genuinely want you to walk away with something useful. You won't just hear abstract theories; you'll get actionable advice that applies whether you're protecting your personal data or responsible for an entire organization's security posture. This podcast demystifies the concepts that matter now, from everyday online habits to broader organizational strategies, making crucial knowledge accessible without oversimplifying the real challenges. Tune in for straightforward discussions that equip you with the understanding to navigate an increasingly complex digital landscape with more confidence.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 61

Cyber Distortion Podcast Series
Podcast Episodes
S2 - Episode 005 – Third Party Risk – It's not Me, It's You! [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

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S2 - Episode 004 - "AI and ChatGPT is Scary Sh*t! – Part II" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:36
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S2 - Episode 003 - "AI and ChatGPT is Scary Sh*t! – Part I" [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 55:03
What in the world does AI and ChatGPT have to do with Cybersecurity? Well, this episode is going to answer that question for you, and so much more!! In today's exciting episode, Jason and Kevin discuss the incredible wor…
S2 - Episode 002 – 2022 Breaches and Some Retrospection [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:21:06
In this exciting second episode of the new season, we're offering up a buffet of delicious options to feast your incessant little cybersecurity appetites on! BREACHES We start by spending time on 5 of the top breaches th…
S2 - Episode 001 – The Dark Web Revisited [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:14:40
WE ARE BACK! Happy 2023 friends… In this exciting episode of or BRAND NEW season 2, Kevin and Jason make good a promise from Season 1 where they go back and take a deep dive into the Dark Web. This time, we're coming wit…
S1 - Episode 014 – Women in Cybersecurity - Part II [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 42:52
There is a worldwide shortage of over 3 million in the ranks of cybersecurity professionals, with half a million of that shortage in North America alone. The problem is only expected to get worse as the demand for infose…
S1 - Episode 013 – Women in Cybersecurity - Part I [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:00
There is a worldwide shortage of over 3 million in the ranks of cybersecurity professionals, with half a million of that shortage in North America alone. The problem is only expected to get worse as the demand for infose…
S1 - Episode 012 – Unraveling the Zero Trust Mystery [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:22:23
If you're like many others in information security, you too may struggle with understanding the concept and basic premise of "zero trust." Well, we have good news for you! After this episode, you can rest-assured that we…
S1 - Episode 011 – The Fine Art of Social Engineering [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:07:03
In this exciting episode, we cover the very fascinating topic of "Social Engineering" aka: Human Hacking! Anyone that lives in Cybersecurity knows that the weakest link in any company's cyber defenses is sitting between…
S1 - Episode 010 – Doomsday Breach Prepping - 101 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:10
When the world comes crumbling down and your entire existence is burning to the ground, will you be prepared to handle it? What am I talking about anyway? The post-breach apocalypse, of course. What else?! You see, we ha…