#45 Lennart Maschmeyer: How Ukraine Avoided a Cyber-Apocalypse & Why Cyberwarfare Isn't What You Think

#45 Lennart Maschmeyer: How Ukraine Avoided a Cyber-Apocalypse & Why Cyberwarfare Isn't What You Think

Author: Decoding Geopolitics January 6, 2025 Duration: 42:05

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This is a conversation with Lennart Meschmayer. Lennart is a researcher at the Center for Security Studies (CSS) at ETH Zurich who’s focusing on cyber warfare - how states use cyber power against each other both in times of war and peace and what role does cyber play in conflicts today. And that’s exactly what this conversation is all about.


We talk about what role does cyber play in the war in Ukraine, why we haven't seen a cyber apocalypse that many have predicted before the war started, why cyber warfare works really differently than most people think, why is Israel a hacking superpower or what would a cyber war between Russia and NATO look like. 


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