27. Was Osho enlightened?

Should you idolize anyone and for what reason?

In this episode, Vemir and Eldar clash over the behavior of "enlightened" figures, with Vemir using Osho as a prime example of someone who attempted to "awaken people" but faced inevitable failure and controversy. The conversation dives into the messy reality of gurus, questioning whether a "flaw in character" or a single "slip-up" can ruin a lifetime of wise work and books. They explore the "slippery slope" of idolizing such figures, warning that when you treat a human as a god, you begin to justify actions that should never be justified.

The Most Insightful Moment:

"You try to go as far as you can, like Jesus did, like Buddha did, like Osho did in all different ways to awaken people. And you will fail because the numbers will attack you to defend the ego stuff." — Vemir 

Key Takeaways:

• The Guru Hierarchy: A deep critique of "mystical spiritual shit" and why no human, regardless of their "enlightened" title, should ever be placed on a pedestal above others.
• The Character vs. Work Debate: Can you separate the wisdom in a book from the "incompetence" or moral failings of the author? The crew debates if Osho’s "flaws" invalidate his teachings.
• The "Dissolution" of Self: Vemir explains the spiritual theory where one no longer sees their body as separate from others, feeling a radical (and perhaps impossible) responsibility for the whole world.
• The Danger of Idolatry: Eldar warns that idealizing a leader leads to a "dangerous" state where followers lose their own ability to reason and truth becomes compromised.
• The "Touch" of Enlightenment: A controversial look at the physical and emotional "energy" followers claim to feel from gurus, and whether that feeling is real or a trick of the ego.

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We’ve unpacked the fallout of Osho’s legacy, but Vemir asks a question that strikes at the heart of all spiritual followers: "How did he fuck up so bad if he was responsible for the whole world?" Stay tuned for the end, where the crew reveals the one thing even an enlightened master can’t control—the free will of those around them.

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