DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “When Vlad Met Donnie”


Author: Ted Rall and John Kiriakou August 15, 2025 Duration: 1:08:39
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DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “When Vlad Met Donnie”

Is the Russo-Ukrainian War about to come to an end? The “DeProgram” show with political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou handicaps the odds of tomorrow’s Alaska summit between Trump and Putin and the other major issues of the day. Join Ted and John as they explore:

• Putin-Trump Summit: As the leaders of the US and Russia prepare to meet in person, Vladimir Putin is reportedly offering financial incentives and 2 million tons of aluminum/mineral rights from the occupied Donbas region of Ukraine to Donald Trump. This move aims to counter a previous U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal. Who will win the mineral bidding war for Trump?

Ethnic Cleansing Plan: Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right politician, has been a vocal advocate for the E1 settlement project in the West Bank. Smotrich announced plans for 3,401 housing units, stating, “Approval of construction plans in E1 buries the idea of a Palestinian state.” About Gaza: Israel is negotiating with Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, UAE, and Qatar to relocate Gazans for ethnic cleansing and genocide. Meanwhile, airdrop-related deaths mount.

• CIA and Sue Mi Terry: Former CIA analyst Sue Mi Terry faces charges for acting as a South Korean agent, raising alarms about intelligence oversight and CIA transparency. What really happened and what are the security implications?

• More Troops to DC?: Speculation grows about Trump deploying more troops to Washington, DC, supposedly to fight crime. Is this really an attempt to control crime and, if so, can it work? Or is it a way to get us accustomed to the militarization of civilian life?

• Q&A with Ted Rall: John had a train to catch! So Ted answered your questions about the Los Angeles Times, Ayn Rand, the effect of the media overseas, and how to break into politics when you’re 16.


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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • According to the DOJ, there was a secret Trump Administration agreement…

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