Pope vs. Dope | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Pope vs. Dope | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Author: Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas April 17, 2026 Duration: 58:21

Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time.

Today we discuss:

Pope Leo XIV says the world is being “ravaged by a handful of tyrants” with nothing for “healing, education and restoration.” “Woe to those who manipulate religion and the very name of God for their own military, economic and political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and filth,” Leo said, presumably about Trump and Netanyahu.

Progressive Democrat Analilia Mejia won a special election in New Jersey’s 11th District, by a landslide, allowing Democrats to further narrow Republicans’ razor-thin majority in the House to 217-214. AIPAC had interfered in the primary by going after incumbent Tom Malinowski, a self-described Zionist, because he wanted conditions on aid to Israel.

• House conservatives, concerned that warrantless government surveillance of foreign individuals could sweep up data on Americans, shot down an 18-month extension Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They have 10 days to talk.

Disgruntled employee Chamel Abdulkarim, 29, of Highland, California, is accused of causing $500 million in damage by setting an April 7 fire that destroyed a 1.2 million-square-foot Kimberly-Clark distribution center in Ontario. Abdulkarim, who worked through a third-party logistics provider, filmed himself setting pallets of paper goods ablaze, says the DOJ. “If you’re not going to pay us enough to [expletive] live… at least pay us enough not to do this,” he allegedly says. “I just cost these [expletive] billions,” he texted. “Luigi popped that mutherf---er,” Abdulkarim said in a call, “a lot of people are going to understand.”

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DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall is a hard-hitting news podcast that cuts through spin, propaganda, and partisan talking points. Hosted by CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou and political cartoonist Ted Rall, it challenges official narratives on the latest domestic and international stories, helping you see how power really works. Drawing on John Kiriakou's real-world undercover experience inside the CIA and around the globe, along with Ted Rall's sharp political insight, each episode breaks down headlines to reveal the raw truth you need to know. Expect uncompromising analysis, uncomfortable facts, and context you will not get from mainstream outlets. When you listen episodes, you will come away more informed, more skeptical, and better equipped to understand the forces shaping our world.
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DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
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