Same Time Next Year | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Same Time Next Year | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Author: Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas April 22, 2026 Duration: 57:50

Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Today we discuss:

• So, there IS more “Mr. Nice Guy.” Trump blinked again by extending the ceasefire with Iran. His critics are mocking another TACO Tuesday. But the derision is better than risking more Iranian and US lives by doubling down to preserve his tough-guy persona. Inside Iran, though, Trump’s threats of military escalation lack credibility. The challenge for diplomats, from Pakistan and elsewhere, will be to find a way for Trump to claim some kind of win.

• Leaked documents reveal details of a secret Saudi Arabia–Pakistan Mutual Defense Pact, now that Pakistan is playing a key role mediating the US-Israel-Iran War. We dig into this entanglement with journalist Murtaza Hussain, who broke this story for DropSite News. Hussain is a journalist specializing in national security and foreign policy. A former Intercept reporter now at Drop Site News, he offers commentary on U.S. interventions, human rights, and global affairs. He appears regularly on CNN, BBC, and MSNBC.

Trump asks Congress to increase the Defense budget by 42% (2/3 over Biden’s last one), to $1.5 trillion. Trump is seeking a 10% cut in discretionary domestic spending, chopping medical research, job training, home heating assistance, environmental protection and disaster relief after hurricanes. At a private Easter luncheon, Trump said: “We’re fighting wars,” he said. “It’s not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare.” Will Trump get his way?

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DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall is a hard-hitting news podcast that cuts through spin, propaganda, and partisan talking points. Hosted by CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou and political cartoonist Ted Rall, it challenges official narratives on the latest domestic and international stories, helping you see how power really works. Drawing on John Kiriakou's real-world undercover experience inside the CIA and around the globe, along with Ted Rall's sharp political insight, each episode breaks down headlines to reveal the raw truth you need to know. Expect uncompromising analysis, uncomfortable facts, and context you will not get from mainstream outlets. When you listen episodes, you will come away more informed, more skeptical, and better equipped to understand the forces shaping our world.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
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