Is Swarm at EOL?

Is Swarm at EOL?

Author: Bret Fisher February 6, 2025 Duration: 18:03

I've been a big fan of Swarm since it was launched over a decade ago and I've made multiple courses on it that still sell. But, we recently got some news out of Mirantis that might be bad news. So I talked about it last week on my live stream.


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★Topics★
Blog post that sparked this discussion:
https://www.portainer.io/blog/portainer-the-essential-tool-for-docker-swarm-users-facing-a-kubernetes-future

Creators & Guests

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:34) - Mirantis' Role in Swarm's Future
  • (01:52) - The Hope of Swarm being shipped in Docker Engine
  • (02:43) - Portainer's Perspective on Swarm's Viability
  • (04:27) - Swarm Community and Support
  • (05:47) - One Sentence Signals Change?
  • (08:37) - Swarm in Maintenance Mode
  • (10:47) - The Docker-Swarm Stack
  • (11:43) - Future of Swarm in Docker Engine
  • (13:52) - Integration Challenges

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