Will it be destroyed?

Will it be destroyed?

Author: Amy Kisei March 22, 2025 Duration: 27:20

Book of Serenity #30: Dasui's Aeonic Fire

A monk asked Dasui: When the fire at the end of an aeon rages through and the whole universe is destroyed, is this destroyed or not?

Dasui said: Destroyed.

The monk said: Then it goes along with that?

Dasui said: It goes along with that.

A monk asked Longji: When the fire ending the aeon rages through and the whole universe is destroyed, is this destroyed or not?

Longji said: Not destroyed.

The monk said: Why is it not destroyed?

Longji said: Because it is the same as the universe.

Zen koans are always asking us about THIS. What is it that is always present? What is reliable?

When so much that seems dependable appears on the brink of being destroyed…what can we rely on? What can we depend on?

Perhaps the current administration has evoked this sentiment. The stripping away of the government, the attack on the education system, on immigrants, on freedom of speech, on gender expression, on trans and women’s rights, environmental protections.

Will THIS be destroyed?

What is THIS?

A new dharma friend was telling me about a book of Zen teachings for turbulent times called Zen under the Gun. One reflection he had was, the teachings aren’t any different then the teachings we are familiar with. Another friend remarked, is it even possible to practice Zen if you aren’t in turbulent times?

Zen practice helps us wake-up in whatever life we are living. The clarity and love that we are—are not dependent on external conditions.

When much is being destroyed or threatened, where are you finding refuge? What freedom can’t be taken away? Can you find love here too?

Its a fiery time. Astrologically many of the planets are in Aries or entering Aries soon. Collectively we are learning something about fire. About its capacity for great destruction as well as rebirth. Aries is a warrior and Aries is also the energy of spring. The courageous power it takes for new growth to push out of the earth, for a bud on a tree to open.

Harada Roshi has this phrase—complete combustion. There is something about this koan, about this historical moment— that is inviting us to step fully into this life we are living. To clarify our intentions and to give life to the bodhisattva vow.

May all being awaken to their true nature.

May all beings know true wellbeing.

May we discover ways to love a little more completely.

*For a deeper dive into commentary on this koan, listen to the recording.

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I’m Amy Kisei. I am a Zen Buddhist Teacher, Spiritual Counselor, budding Astrologer and Artist. I offer 1:1 Spiritual Counseling sessions using IFS and somatic mindfulness. I also offer astrology readings. Check out my website to learn more. I currently live in Columbus, OH and am a supporting teacher for the Mud Lotus Sangha.

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