Foolish Fossil Fuel Phase-Out — The Climate Realism Show #183 (Guests: Tony Heller and Craig Rucker)

Foolish Fossil Fuel Phase-Out — The Climate Realism Show #183 (Guests: Tony Heller and Craig Rucker)

Author: The Heartland Institute November 27, 2025 Duration: 1:37:01

The latest annual UN climate conference, COP 30, is coming to a close. Already a failure, the delegates of doom who gathered in Brazil decided that they needed a serious goal to cap off the conference. What did they come up with? Nothing less than the coming up with a concrete roadmap for the complete phase-out of fossil fuels. They might as well have agreed on drawing out a roadmap to Neverland, because that’s just as likely to be found as a future with zero use of fossil fuels.

The Heartland Institute's Jim Lakely, Sterling Burnett, and Linnea Lueken will be joined by special guests Craig Rucker of CFACT, who just got back from COP 30 in Brazil, and Tony Heller, one of the most-popular and influential climate realism communicators in America. We will also cover also cover some of the Crazy Climate News of the Week, including an exodus from EPA, what climate policy failure looks like in graph form, perhaps the cringiest moment in COP history, and Donald Trump’s call to have those who have pushed climate alarmism investigated.

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