Honor by Association - FT#181

Honor by Association - FT#181

Author: Jim & Mark September 23, 2025 Duration: 1:40:31

In the one-hundred-and-eighty-first episode, we explore the Honor by Association Fallacy, starting with Trump invoking Lincoln and his big hat, his smart uncle, and the American flag.

In Mark's British Politics Corner, we look at George Osborne, Rishi Sunak, Kier Starmer, and Michael Gove, all associating themselves with the common, salt of the earth, working class British people.

In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from South Park, Saving Christmas, and a Snickers ad from the 1984 Olympics.

Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.

Then Jim talks to Marsh and Cecil from The Know Rogan Experience podcast about which you can find out more here: https://www.knowrogan.com/

And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.

The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft181 

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