S07.21: Meet My Vibe Criteria: V.E. Schwab on writing, obsession, and romance outside of Romance

S07.21: Meet My Vibe Criteria: V.E. Schwab on writing, obsession, and romance outside of Romance

Author: Fated Mates February 5, 2025 Duration: 1:37:28

We're mixing it up today with a fabulous special guest! The brilliant V.E. Schwab joins us for a far-reaching chat about writing romance outside of romance novels™️, about the difference between obsession and love, about the way we can't help but ship characters who will never get together, and about writing in general...and how we tackle character, conflict, and power in storytelling. We had a great time, and you will, too.

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The Books


The Notes


The Sponsors




00:00 Bantr

07:54 Welcome VE Schwab

15:15 AD: THE WINNING TICKET

21:37 Writing Relationship

32:29 The Marketing Problem

34:24 AD: THE RIVAL

44:47 Characters and Genres Evolve

49:10 AD: PLAYING GAMES

57:35 Judgement & Labels

1:03:56 AD: A TROPICAL REBEL GETS THE DUKE

1:12:32 The Minions Complex

1:20:02 Recommendations

1:31:25 Outro

1:33:44 AD: THE RIVAL


Co-hosted by bestselling author Sarah MacLean and critic Jen Prokop, Fated Mates-Romance Books for Novel People digs into the genre with a blend of scholarly enthusiasm and pure fandom. This isn't just a book club; it's a deep, weekly examination of why romance novels work, how they mirror and challenge our world, and why they are often dismissed despite their massive cultural impact. The conversation is always grounded in the text itself, often through structured read-alongs of seminal works, where Sarah and Jen unpack character motivations, tropes, and narrative structure with the detail they deserve. You'll hear lively discussions that treat the genre seriously-analyzing its function as a subversive force and a powerful tool against patriarchal norms-while never losing the joy and sheer fun of a good love story. The tone is inclusive, insightful, and famously without kink-shaming, creating a space where appreciation and critical analysis coexist. Tune into this podcast for a dialogue that celebrates complexity, champions the reader's experience, and consistently argues for the intellectual and emotional heft of romance fiction.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

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