Joel Cox: 'It's fine to have jerks in stories, but you have to have something that makes the reader keep reading'

Joel Cox: 'It's fine to have jerks in stories, but you have to have something that makes the reader keep reading'

Author: Fictionable May 3, 2026 Duration: 24:33

We've heard from Diana Evans and Bruna Martini already in this Spring series of podcasts, and we'll be welcoming Takiguchi Yūshō and the translator Jesse Kirkwood, and Holly Edwards over the next couple of weeks. But this podcast is devoted to Joel Cox and Variable Rewards.


Cox explains that this short story came out of his own move to the suburbs and his love for Richard Yates's novel Revolutionary Road.


"A few months into living in the suburbs," he recalls, "I was thinking this story sounds really familiar."


But while Yates's characters were all members of the Rotary club and hanging out at cocktail parties, in the 21st century the suburbs have become far more fragmented.


"I couldn't tell you the name of our neighbours, probably for the last ten years," Cox admits. "So you're living in this strange world where you're in a village, or the simulation of a New York village, that's in the middle of nowhere, where you don't know anyone."


This sense of disconnection is amplified by social media, he continues, which allows people to "project the image of the life you want to live, even if you're not really living it". And it's intensified by the wave of redundancies, as companies pivot to AI.


"There's a lot of scrambling right now for everyone to figure out what their role will be in this new AI world," Cox explains, "and how they can leverage AI to survive, to hide out while this transition takes place."


When people are jostling for position on a sinking ship, there's always room for fiction, he adds, but even if your characters are behaving like jerks you have to keep your sense of humour.


"I like to have fun while I write," Cox says. "If my characters are having a laugh at themselves, I think it balances out their jerkiness."


We'll be striking a balance with Holly Edwards next time, and her short story Little Lamb, Who Made Thee? 


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


Fictionable is a space for those drawn to the compact power of short stories and the vivid narratives of graphic fiction. Each episode delves into the craft and culture surrounding these forms, featuring conversations with the writers and artists themselves. We explore the techniques behind compelling brevity, the unique challenges of visual storytelling, and the diverse literary scenes influencing work today. The discussion often extends to broader book chat, examining how these shorter pieces fit into the wider landscape of reading and creativity. It’s a podcast built for curious readers who find entire worlds in a few pages or panels, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the stories published in the Fictionable collection. You’ll hear about inspiration, process, and the personal connections that fuel these works, all sourced from a global community of creators. The aim is to deepen appreciation for the art form while celebrating the voices shaping it. This isn’t just analysis; it’s an invitation into the ongoing conversation between author, artist, and audience. Join us for a thoughtful and engaging exploration of narrative in its most concentrated and visually dynamic forms.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

Fictionable
Podcast Episodes
AL Kennedy: 'It's all political, if you're writing fiction' [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:39
It's raining in London, but it's time for another issue – and another series of Fictionable podcasts. Over the next few weeks we'll be hearing from Sheyla Smanioto, Pete Segall, Ali McClary and Dafydd McKimm. But we begi…
PR Woods: 'I would never write anything against Wolf Hall' [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:58
We've already heard from Fríða Ísberg and Bronia Flett in this Spring series, and we'll be welcoming Susanna Clarke and Jeremy Wikeley on to the Fictionable podcast over the next few weeks. But this time we're going back…
Bronia Flett: 'This is obviously all fiction' [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:51
Fríða Ísberg got this Spring series of podcasts started, with a dialogue on monologues and a reading from her short story Fingers, translated by Larissa Kyzer. We'll be welcoming Susanna Clarke, Jeremy Wikeley and PR Woo…
Fríða Ísberg: 'We are always just looking for simple stories' [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 25:33
Everything is changing, but one thing you can rely on is a new set of stories and a new series of podcasts from Fictionable. Spring 2025 brings us stories from Susanna Clarke, Bronia Flett, Jeremy Wikeley and PR Woods –…
Joanna Kavenna: 'We all make fictions about the future' [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:18
After hearing from Helga Schubert, Ben Sorgiovanni, Julian George and Rachida Lamrabet, we bring this Winter series of podcasts to a close with Joanna Kavenna and her short story Notes on the Future.Kavenna tells us how…