BONUS FW SERIES: "LIke a game of chess." After she leaves

BONUS FW SERIES: "LIke a game of chess." After she leaves

Author: FW July 20, 2025 Duration: 28:31

Trigger warning: domestic and family violence. 

1 in 4 women and 1 in 14 men have experienced violence from an intimate partner. This is a whole of society issue - including workplaces. That's why we wanted to share our latest series, There's No Place Like Home: After she leaves. This is episode tthree.

Conor Pall never wanted to live with a man he calls ‘The Shadow’. But he was forced to. In this episode of There’s No Place Like Home: After she leaves, Tara Rae Moss shares Conor’s story and investigates how perpetrators are able to weaponise systems after victim-survivors escape from them - legal, financial or otherwise.

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  • If you or someone you know is affected by domestic, family and sexual violence, contact 1800RESPECT, the national service for free and confidential counselling, information and support. Call 1800 737 732 or chat online 24/7 at www.1800respect.org.au 
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BONUS FW SERIES: "I know where you are." After she leaves [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:48
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Kathryn McMullan on how to develop executive presence [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 29:10
Is executive presence innate? Or, is it something we can work on and develop as we grow as leaders? Kathryn McMullan is one of the country’s most senior national security leaders. She's also someone who knows how to comm…
BONUS FW SERIES: "The ultimate act of revenge." After she leaves [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:04
Trigger warning: domestic and family violence and homicide. 1 in 4 women and 1 in 14 men have experienced violence from an intimate partner. This is a whole of society issue - including workplaces. That's why we wanted t…
Dr Rachel David on how to stamp out passive-aggressiveness [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 33:21
How can leaders best spot and put a stop to passive-aggressive behaviours in teams? CEO of Private Healthcare Australia, Dr Rachel David, is someone who has given leadership a lot of thought. She cut her teeth as a leade…
Part two: Mike Baird on managing underperformers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 25:04
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Mike Baird on faith and leadership in the public eye [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 26:44
At first glance, former NSW Premier Mike Baird’s career could almost seem pre-determined. He followed his father into politics and quickly established himself as a big name in the Liberal Party. After becoming Premier, h…
Leading across genders [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:13
How can we best lead across genders? And how leaders should be thinking about bridging the gender divide? In this panel discussion recorded live at the FW Leadership Summit, join journalist Leila McKinnon as she examines…
Bernadette Black on learning to override fear [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:21
As a young mum, Bernadette Black had one of her most profound leadership realisations. Looking at her newborn son, she realised she would have to "override" fear and seek help. Bernadette's conviction that society could…
Katrina Gorry is finally ready to call herself a leader [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:20
Star Matilda's midfielder Katrina Gorry might be one of the most beloved athletes in the country. But for a long time she never saw herself as a leader...Gorry speaks with FW Founder Helen McCabe ahead of the global rele…
Dr Kirstin Ferguson on blindspotting and why it matters [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 24:05
Is it possible for you to be entirely unaware of what is holding you back as a leader? Dr Kirstin Ferguson is an internationally-recognised executive coach, author and company director. She appeared on the podcast ahead…