Stump the VitalTalk Communication Experts: A Podcast with Gordon Wood, Holly Yang, Elise Carey

Stump the VitalTalk Communication Experts: A Podcast with Gordon Wood, Holly Yang, Elise Carey

Author: Alex Smith, Eric Widera August 29, 2024 Duration: 48:06

Serious illness communication is hard. We must often deliver complex medical information that carries heavy emotional weight in pressured settings to individuals with varying cultural backgrounds, values, and beliefs. That's a hard enough task, given that most of us have never had any communication skills training. It feels nearly impossible if you add another degree of difficulty, whether it be a crying interpreter or a grandchild from another state who shows up at the end of a family meeting yelling how you are killing grandma.

On today's podcast, we try to stump three VitalTalk expert faculty, Gordon Wood, Holly Yang, Elise Carey, with some of the most challenging communication scenarios that we (and some of our listeners) could think up.

During the podcast, we reference a newly released second-edition book that our guests published titled "Navigating Communication with Seriously Ill Patients: Balancing Honesty with Empathy and Hope."  I'd add this to your "must read" list of books, as it takes readers through the VitalTalk method that our guests use so effectively when addressing these challenging scenarios.

If you are interested in learning more about VitalTalk, check out their and some of these other podcasts we've done with three of the other authors of this book (and VitalTalk co-founders):


Lastly, I reference Alex's Take Out the Trash video, where he uses communication skills learned in his palliative care training at home with his wife.  The results are… well… let's just say less than perfect. 

By: Eric Widera


Hosted by UCSF physicians Alex Smith and Eric Widera, GeriPal-A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast creates a vital space for conversation at the intersection of aging and serious illness care. This isn't a dry lecture series; it's a dynamic dialogue where Eric and Alex bring on leading experts to unpack the complexities of geriatric and palliative medicine. They delve into the latest research that should change practice, tackle the ethical dilemmas that provoke debate, and explore the nuanced clinical challenges that professionals face daily. The tone is engaging and often surprisingly lighthearted, with moments of humor and even the occasional song, making profound topics more accessible. Whether you're a clinician, nurse, social worker, or any professional dedicated to this field, this podcast offers a blend of evidence-based insights and practical wisdom you can use. It’s a resource that acknowledges the weight of the work while fostering connection and continued learning. For those seeking formal education credits, AMA PRA Category 1 CME and MOC credit are also available through the show. Tune in to join a community committed to improving care for older adults and those with serious illness.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

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