#86 - Why Churches Are Dying (And How to Bring Them Back to Life) with Pastor Josh Musgrave

#86 - Why Churches Are Dying (And How to Bring Them Back to Life) with Pastor Josh Musgrave

Author: Jeff Musgrave & George Binoka April 22, 2026 Duration: 28:20

Every Sunday, 17 Southern Baptist churches close their doors—and that number may be even higher across all denominations. In this urgent and eye-opening episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka sits down with pastor and Exchange trainer Josh Musgrave to tackle a growing crisis in the American church.

What’s the difference between a church revitalization and a replant? Why do churches plateau—and what causes them to decline? More importantly, how can a church rediscover its mission and begin reaching its community again?

Josh shares real-life insight from nearly two decades of ministry, explaining how gospel-centered discipleship, a culture shaped by God’s holiness, justice, love, and grace, and a commitment to prayer can transform even the most struggling church.

If you’re a pastor, ministry leader, or church member burdened by what you see happening in churches today, this episode will give you clarity, direction, and hope.


Hosted by Jeff Musgrave and George Binoka, Gospel Talks Podcast is a conversation rooted in practical faith. It moves beyond theory to focus on the everyday realities of sharing and living out one’s beliefs. The discussions here are built on the foundation of The Exchange, a ministry dedicated to training Christians and churches in relational evangelism and discipleship. You’ll hear from Jeff, the founder and author of resources like the Exchange Bible Study, as well as from George, as they explore how these principles translate into genuine conversations with neighbors, friends, and coworkers. Each episode aims to equip you with thoughtful perspectives and actionable ideas, making the core of the gospel feel accessible in your daily interactions. This isn’t about formulas, but about fostering a natural, confident faith that connects with people where they are. Tune in for a podcast that feels like a thoughtful dialogue with mentors who are invested in seeing your faith become both deeper and more outwardly focused.
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