Actor Laurence Olivier with Derek Jacobi and Tim Walker

Actor Laurence Olivier with Derek Jacobi and Tim Walker

Author: BBC Radio 4 August 14, 2026 Duration: 27:41

Laurence Olivier, Baron Olivier of Brighton, was born in Dorking in 1907. He's best known these days for roles in films ranging from Wuthering Heights to Spartacus to the ageing Nazi hunter Ezra Lieberman in The Boys from Brazil. He received twelve Oscar nominations but was in his pomp on stage, particularly in John Osborne's The Entertainer, and in multiple Shakespearean roles. He was also the first director of the National Theatre.

Nominating Olivier is political writer turned playwright Tim Walker, author of When Maggie Met Larry. This is the extraordinary tale of how Olivier, who was known for over the top performances, helped to shape Mrs Thatcher's appearance as she rose to become prime minister. Also joining the discussion is Sir Derek Jacobi, who confirms this story and who was a good friend of Olivier in his later years. Derek Jacobi was one of the founding members of the National Theatre alongside Maggie Smith, Frank Finlay and Joan Plowright, who became Olivier's third and final wife.

"He was a god. To me he was a god. I remember him saying, 'Call me Larry.' I could no more call him Larry than fly to the moon." Sir Derek Jacobi.

Olivier was also famously married to Vivien Leigh, star of Gone with the Wind, and before that to Jill Esmond.

This is presenter Matthew Parris's 61st and final series of Great Lives. He's been the presenter since April 2006. His guests in this final run include Mel Giedroyc, Russell Kane, Ruby Tandoh and Pauline Black of The Selector who has picked singer Poly Styrene of X Ray Spex.

"I adore presenting this show, and believe my series editor and I have done a good job. The programme goes from strength to strength. But I'll be 77 soon. Quit when you're winning." Matthew Parris in The Times, June 2026


Some voices become so familiar they feel like companions, and the conversations on Great Lives from BBC Radio 4 have that quality. It’s less a formal history lesson and more a series of intimate, revealing portraits, shaped by the personal choices of a different guest each time. These guests-ranging from acclaimed artists and scientists to politicians and writers-bring forward the figure who has profoundly shaped their own path, whether that’s a towering historical icon or a quieter, overlooked genius. What you’ll hear is a genuine discussion, often surprising and always deeply human, as host and guest piece together a life from the facts, the myths, and the enduring legacy. The magic of this podcast lies in that dual perspective: you learn about an extraordinary subject, but you also get a glimpse into what moves the person choosing them. It’s a documentary series that lives in the specific details of individual experience, connecting the personal to the historical. Tune in for thoughtful, well-researched conversations that explore how a single life can ripple through culture, society, and the individuals who come after, reminding us that biography is never just about the past.
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Pauline Black of The Selecter on Poly Styrene of X-Ray Spex [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:35
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Cartoonist Naji al-Ali [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:36
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Duration: 27:48
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Ade Edmondson on singer Sandy Denny [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:09
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Tony Garnett picked by Harry Bradbeer [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:54
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Peter Cook picked by Jon Harvey aka Count Binface [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:40
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Coco Khan picks Edith Garrud, the jujitsu fighting suffragette [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:44
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William Gladstone, four-time PM [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:20
"Gladstone became prime minister at 82, and not as a figurehead. That is the Gladstone who has inspired me." Trevor Lyttleton.Born in 1809, William Gladstone's political life straddled the century - he moved from the tor…
Alistair McGowan on HE Bates [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:24
HE Bates is probably best known for the Darling Buds of May and Fair Stood the Wind for France, but Alistair McGowan is surprised that he is not known for his short stories, which he believes are the best ever written. "…