My Husband Confronts His Ex-Pastor Carl Lentz from Hillsong Church

My Husband Confronts His Ex-Pastor Carl Lentz from Hillsong Church

Author: Jeanine Amapola March 24, 2026 Duration: 1:36:46
We sit down with Carl Lentz, ex-Hillsong pastor, and we didn’t feel like we were talking to a “celebrity pastor” or someone from headlines—It felt like we were talking to a real human being who has walked through the fire and come out on the other side. This episode honestly felt different… like one of those conversations that stays with you. What stood out to me the most is how honest he was. No excuses. No pretending. Just real ownership of his mistakes, his pain, and his growth. He talked about how small compromises turned into bigger ones… how pressure and fame didn’t create his issues, but exposed what was already there. And instead of running from it, he leaned into healing. We also talked about Hillsong, what it was, what it wasn't, Carl's forthcoming book, and so much more. In This Episode 02:00 – Introducing Carl Lentz & His Redemption Journey 04:30 – Carl’s Early Life + Finding Faith 07:00 – Hillsong College: The Good, Bad & Misconceptions 12:00 – Church Culture, Pressure & “Stage Time” Conversations 17:00 – Leadership, Words & Influence Responsibility 20:00 – Fame, Justin Bieber & Platform Pressure 28:00 – Burnout, Hustle Culture & Ministry Pace 33:30 – What He Would Do Differently + Advice for Leaders 40:00 – Was It Real? Addressing Doubts About His Intentions 45:00 – Public Failure, Shame & Owning His Actions 48:00 – Letting Go of Bitterness + Choosing Healing 52:00 – Identity, Being Misunderstood & Public Perception 56:00 – What Redemption Actually Looks Like Today 01:00:00+ – Final Thoughts: Faith, Growth & Moving Forward More From Carl Lentz Follow Carl Lights On Podcast Pre-Order Overcoming Infidelity Thanks to Our Sponsors Creatone: Use code HEALTHY to get 20% off at ⁠tonetoday.com⁠ Wayfair: Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for WAY less. Head to ⁠⁠⁠Wayfair.com⁠⁠⁠ right now to shop all things home. If you’d like to partner with Jeanine as a sponsor for the Happy & Healthy podcast, fill out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Advertise With Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ form! Follow us on Instagram!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy and Healthy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine and Kaleb⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy and Healthy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jeanine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jeanine Amapola has built a life around sharing real stories and practical wisdom, and now she’s bringing that same warm, conversational energy to Happy & Healthy with Jeanine Amapola. As a Texas-born creator and author with a community of millions, Jeanine knows that genuine growth happens at the intersection of faith, culture, and everyday life. In this podcast, you’ll find candid discussions that feel like a coffee chat with a thoughtful friend, covering everything from personal faith and spiritual practices to navigating modern relationships and societal pressures. The conversations are rooted in a Christian perspective but are designed for anyone interested in building a more intentional and joyful life. You’ll hear Jeanine’s own experiences, lessons learned from both stumbles and successes, and insights on how to cultivate resilience and purpose. It’s more than just advice; it’s about finding a healthier mindset and a happier heart through authentic connection. Tune in for a space where self-improvement meets spirituality, all explored with Jeanine’s characteristic positivity and honesty.
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Podcast Episodes
Asking a Pastor Controversial Questions You’re Afraid To Ask [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:21:33
Okay you guys, this episode is a GOOD one. Kaleb and I are sitting down with Pastor Luke Lezon and putting him in the hot seat with some of the questions Christians are actually asking—but sometimes feel afraid to say ou…
Opening Up About My Past Marriage 10 Years Later… [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:11:21
Ten years later, I’m finally ready to share a part of my story that I’ve carried quietly for a long time: my past marriage and annulment. In this episode, I’m opening up about being 21, feeling isolated and unsure of mys…
My Husband Opens Up About His Battle with ADHD and Medication… [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:24
Kaleb is back on the pod, and you guys… we covered A LOT 😂 We’re officially back home, law school year two is underway, and life honestly feels so much more peaceful and settled than it did this time last year. Kaleb ope…
Why Being a Christian Feels Harder Than Ever Before…. I’m Worried [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 45:09
Okay you guys, I have THOUGHTS on this one. 😂 The Christian social media landscape has been feeling a little exhausting lately, and I think we need to talk about it. In this episode, I’m unpacking why Christianity can so…
Things I Stopped Caring About in My 30s (And You Should Too) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:27
Okay you guys, I’m 32, I’m a mom, and there are officially some things I simply do not care about anymore 😂 In this episode, I’m sharing the things I’ve slowly let go of as I’ve gotten older—from keeping up with every fa…
Things Christians Say That AREN’T Actually In The  Bible [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 33:39
Have you ever heard a phrase so many times that you just assumed it was in the Bible? 🙋‍♀️ SAME. In today’s episode, Kaleb and I are breaking down some of the most common sayings Christians repeat that either aren’t actu…