Internal Absence: Emptiness in NPD

Internal Absence: Emptiness in NPD

Author: Mark Ettensohn, Psy.D. May 26, 2026 Duration: 15:00
Dr. Mark Ettensohn examines the experience of emptiness in narcissistic personality disorder and other forms of personality pathology. Rather than approaching personality disorders as collections of traits or behaviors, the episode frames them as disturbances in identity. Dr. Ettensohn outlines how the sense of self is constructed through early relational experience and how disruptions in that process can lead to unstable, fragmented, or underdeveloped self-experience. The discussion focuses on the role of dissociation and splitting in shaping identity, and how different self-states may become organized around incompatible relational experiences. In this context, emptiness is not simply a feeling, but reflects aspects of the self that were never fully recognized, mirrored, or integrated in development. Dr. Ettensohn also addresses a common misunderstanding in public discourse, where narcissism is equated with observable traits such as arrogance or entitlement. He explains why these descriptions capture only one part of a broader system involving both grandiose and vulnerable states, and how focusing solely on behavior obscures the underlying psychological structure. The episode concludes with a discussion of clinical implications, emphasizing why treatments that focus only on behavior often fall short, and why effective work with narcissistic pathology requires attention to identity, relational process, and the integration of dissociated aspects of self-experience. Additional ResourcesWebsite: https://healnpd.orgNewsletter: https://healnpd.substack.com Purchase Unmasking Narcissism: A Guide to Understanding the Narcissist in Your Life: https://amzn.to/3nG9FgH LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://rb.gy/cklpumLISTEN ON GOOGLE PODCASTS: https://rb.gy/fotpcaLISTEN ON AMAZON MUSIC: https://rb.gy/g4yzh8   About Heal NPDHeal NPD is a clinical practice specializing in the assessment and treatment of pathological narcissism, narcissistic personality disorder, and related personality difficulties. We offer comprehensive diagnostic assessments, individual psychotherapy, and consultations for partners and family members. Learn more or inquire about services: https://healnpd.org

In Heal NPD, clinical psychologist Mark Ettensohn, Psy.D., offers a nuanced and compassionate exploration of narcissism, moving beyond simplistic labels to examine the underlying psychological structures. This podcast delves into the complexities of narcissistic personality disorder and related traits, providing clarity for those who recognize these patterns in themselves or in their relationships. Dr. Ettensohn draws from his specialized therapeutic practice to discuss the origins of narcissistic adaptations, the impact on interpersonal dynamics, and the realistic pathways toward change and healing. Episodes often break down clinical concepts into accessible language, featuring discussions on empathy, identity, shame, and the challenging process of building healthier self-esteem and relational skills. The tone is educational yet deeply human, aiming to reduce stigma and foster understanding. Whether you are a mental health professional, someone personally affected by NPD, or simply curious about personality psychology, this series provides a rare, expert-guided look into a frequently misunderstood area of human behavior. Tune in for a thoughtful perspective that prioritizes psychological science and the possibility of growth.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 62

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Podcast Episodes
Lisa Taylor-Austin’s Interview with Dr. Ettensohn [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:12:02
This episode is the audio from an on-camera interview between licensed psychotherapist Lisa Taylor-Austin and Dr. Ettensohn. The video of this interview can be viewed on Lisa's youTube channel here: https://www.youtube.c…
Decoding NPD: The Critical Role of Attachment [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:41
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn draws heavily on his own research concerning pathological narcissism and attachment patterns, using attachment theory as a lens to focus explanatory power onto the often confusing dynamics…
5 Common Misconceptions about NPD [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:27
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn addresses 5 common misconceptions about pathological narcissism and NPD: 1. NPD is not a mental illness 2. NPD is not treatable 3. Even if NPD is treatable, actual healing is impossible 4.…
Boundaries, Assertiveness, and NPD [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 24:47
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn discusses the important topic of boundaries. He provides a definition of interpersonal boundaries, discusses the reasons why boundaries are important for mental health and healthy relations…
What Causes Narcissistic Rage? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:04
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn explores the possible causes of narcissistic rage, referencing the work of Ernest S. Wolf, a close collaborator with Heinz Kohut and author of the book 'Treating the Self: Elements of Clini…
Do Narcissists ”Know What They’re Doing?” [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 14:47
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn discusses the topic of self-awareness in NPD. Numerous commenters have shared their belief that narcissists "know what they are doing"...that they are fully aware of the harm caused by thei…
Why Narcissists Lack Empathy [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 15:21
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn outline 4 reasons why empathy may be impaired in pathological narcissism and NPD: 1. Lack of self awareness 2. Objectification of the self and others 3. A 'starvation mindset' 4. Avoidant a…
Illness Anxiety and NPD [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:35
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn explores the connection between illness anxiety and pathological narcissism. This episode explores how illness anxiety in NPD can be disguised anxiety about loss of self or psychological di…
A Real Definition of Narcissistic Abuse [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:20
The term ‘narcissistic abuse’ has been, itself, heavily abused. Is has largely been a pop-psychology term that means different things depending on how and where it is used. It is often used to demonize individuals with p…
Why Narcissists Feel Empty Inside [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 13:29
In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn discusses the emptiness that individuals with pathological narcissism and NPD often experience using the concept of ‘Self as Object.’ Individuals with pathological narcissism and NPD often…