Ep 681: Can AI Fix TA's Biggest Problem?

Ep 681: Can AI Fix TA's Biggest Problem?

Author: Evergreen Podcasts February 27, 2025 Duration: 28:06
People are worried about the use of AI in recruiting. Headlines warn us that artificial intelligence might amplify biases and automate unfairness. Regulators are scrambling to introduce legislation, and talent acquisition leaders are cautious about adopting these new tools. But is this fear causing us to miss the bigger picture? When implemented intentionally and responsibly, could AI become one of the most powerful tools we've ever had for reducing systemic bias and creating fairer hiring practices? Keep listening to find out. Recruiting processes often prioritize speed and familiarity over fairness and inclusion and, in so doing, reinforce existing biases. With AI becoming increasingly integrated into hiring, many worry that this technology will amplify bias even more. However, some recently published research suggests this assumption doesn't tell the whole story. My guest this week is Torin Ellis, an experienced recruiter, DEIB strategist, and high-profile advocate for fair and inclusive hiring. Torin recently published research in collaboration with Plum, specifically highlighting how organizations that use AI in an intentional way are seeing significant improvements in diversifying their candidate slates and expanding their talent pools. He believes that AI can create a more level playing field for all candidates if it's properly deployed. Torin also emphasizes that the risks of AI-driven biases are real, and recruiters need to approach AI thoughtfully and responsibly. In the interview, we discuss: What makes recruiting systemically biased Democratizing access to opportunity How AI is diversifying slates of talent The dangers of relying on resumes Using AI intentionally to reduce bias  Upskilling, reskilling, and driving toward equal compensation What are the dangers of AI? How are employers responding to the attacks on DE&I? What does the future look like Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts. Follow this podcast on Spotify.

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Ep 673: The Route To Skills-Based Hiring [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 30:11
The move towards skills-based strategies in organizations is still a big topic. This is unsurprising, as the advantages are significant. Skills-based thinking solves critical business challenges by better aligning talent…
Embracing Upskilling and Micro-Learning w/ Darnell Hill [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:50
From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Darnell Hill, Vice President of Talent Acquisition at AAA Mountain West Group, joins The Chad & Cheese to discuss the company's transformation and his insights into the HR lands…
Ep 672: Are Career Sites Evolving Quickly Enough? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:43
Career Sites still play a central role in talent acquisition, but are they evolving quickly enough? With many employers still working in career site redevelopment cycles that take years rather than months, are they keepi…
Ep 671: Balancing AI & The Human Touch [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:02
Frontline hiring is more competitive than ever, with speed and efficiency now critical for success. However, the challenge doesn't stop at making the hiring process faster; employers also need to stand out from their com…
HR Trends and AI Risks: Keith Sonderling [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:23
Onstage at Outsolve's HR Gumbo Conference in New Orleans, Keith Sonderling, the former Commissioner of the EEOC, joins Chad & Cheese to discuss major trends in employment discrimination and the evolving role of AI in HR.…
Ep 670: Jeff Taylor: Rethinking Hiring for the AI Age [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:01:31
It feels like Recruiting has come a long way since the days of help-wanted ads in newspapers, but are we genuinely innovating or just consistently repackaging outdated ways of doing things? For well over a century, versi…
Europe: Sex Workers, AI, and Start-Ups [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 59:00
In this hilarious installment of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, Lieven joins the boys as they embark on a wild ride through Europe, sharing tales of cultural faux pas and giving shout-outs that'll make you spit o…
Ep 669: How L'Oréal Group is Using AI To Evolve Talent Acquisition [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 30:08
With 1.5 million applications each year, L'Oréal Group's talent acquisition team faces challenges on a scale most organizations would never experience. Managing this volume while ensuring a high-quality candidate experie…
Ep 668: Strategic Budgeting For TA Leaders [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 32:58
Budgeting has long been challenging for talent acquisition teams, but the stakes have never been higher in today's volatile economic environment. Many TA leaders find themselves stuck in a cycle of defending past decisio…
Mastering Recruitment with Gerry Crispin [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 16:11
Gerry Crispin crashes into the Chad & Cheese podcast live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA. With a cool 53 years in recruiting under his belt, Gerry takes us through his career, where he picked up a few nuggets…