Ep 688: Is AI’s Impact On TA Underhyped?

Ep 688: Is AI’s Impact On TA Underhyped?

Author: Evergreen Podcasts March 27, 2025 Duration: 25:47
The conversation around AI in talent acquisition often focuses on incremental improvements and point solutions – better job descriptions, faster candidate matching, or automated interview scheduling. But this limited view dramatically underestimates the fundamental transformation that's already underway. While many are still debating whether AI is overhyped, there is growing evidence that it is actually significantly underhyped, with implications far beyond what most TA leaders are preparing for. So, how can TA move beyond tactical AI implementations to develop the strategic capabilities that will soon be essential? My guest this week is Jonathan Kestenbaum, Managing Director of Tech Strategy at AMS and a long-time trusted authority in work tech innovation. Jonathan cuts through the noise to explain why current industry discussions around AI are missing the bigger picture – a future where talent acquisition transforms into strategic orchestration and the way organizations attract and deploy talent is fundamentally reshaped . In the interview, we discuss:  The unprecedented speed of change compared to previous tech cycles  The current AI use cases that hint at a much more significant transformation ahead Why recruitment processes need a complete redesign, not just automation  The split between humans and machines and the impact on jobs Skills based firing Moving from talent acquisition to talent orchestration  What do TA Leaders need to do right now What does the TA Tech stack of the future look like Follow this podcast in Apple Podcasts. Follow this podcast on Spotify.

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Ep 673: The Route To Skills-Based Hiring [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 30:11
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Duration: 10:50
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Ep 672: Are Career Sites Evolving Quickly Enough? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:43
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Ep 671: Balancing AI & The Human Touch [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:02
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HR Trends and AI Risks: Keith Sonderling [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:23
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Ep 670: Jeff Taylor: Rethinking Hiring for the AI Age [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:01:31
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Europe: Sex Workers, AI, and Start-Ups [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 59:00
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Ep 669: How L'Oréal Group is Using AI To Evolve Talent Acquisition [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 30:08
With 1.5 million applications each year, L'Oréal Group's talent acquisition team faces challenges on a scale most organizations would never experience. Managing this volume while ensuring a high-quality candidate experie…
Ep 668: Strategic Budgeting For TA Leaders [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 32:58
Budgeting has long been challenging for talent acquisition teams, but the stakes have never been higher in today's volatile economic environment. Many TA leaders find themselves stuck in a cycle of defending past decisio…
Mastering Recruitment with Gerry Crispin [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 16:11
Gerry Crispin crashes into the Chad & Cheese podcast live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA. With a cool 53 years in recruiting under his belt, Gerry takes us through his career, where he picked up a few nuggets…