41 Are rabbits counted as birds because eating meat was taboo in japan? (About the History of Meat "Bans" & the Counter -wa))

41 Are rabbits counted as birds because eating meat was taboo in japan? (About the History of Meat "Bans" & the Counter -wa))

Author: JapanKyo.com April 7, 2021 Duration: 1:12:11

On this episode of Ichimon Japan we ask: Are rabbits counted as birds because eating meat was taboo in Japan?

Topics Discussed

  • The practice of counting rabbits as if they were birds in Japanese
  • Whether Japanese people eat meat
  • What exactly qualifies as meat
  • The history of meats "bans" in Japan
  • The hypocritical and dubious nature of meat "bans" in Japan
  • What the earliest written Japanese records say about meat consumption in Japan
  • The influence Buddhism had on the practice of eating meat in early Japanese history
  • The declaration by Emperor Tenmu in April of 675 AD that prohibited people from eating meat in Japan
  • How the consumption of wild game was tacitly permitted throughout much of Japanese history
  • A description of a Heian era feast involving bear paws and rabbit spleens
  • Possible penalties faced by those who ate meet
  • Having to fast for eating meat
  • The arrival of the Portuguese in Japan and the hard time they supposedly had adjusting to the Japanese diet
  • The Tokugawa's promotion of Buddhist culture and ideas
  • Meat bans and meat eating during the Edo Period
  • Shops in Edo that sold the meat of wild game
  • The discrimination faced by people who slaughtered animals and tanned hides
  • Consuming meat for medicinal purposes
  • How meat consumption was looked at in a much more positive light during the Meiji Period
  • An incident in 1872 in which Buddhist priests broke into the Imperial Palace due to opposing the Emperor's promotion of meat consumption
  • The death of the historical Buddha
  • The counter system in Japanese
  • What the Japanese counter -hiki (匹)is usually used for
  • What the Japanese counter - (頭) is usually used for
  • The supposed "correct" way to count rabbits in Japanese
  • Various theories about why -wa, the counter that is normally used to count birds, is supposed to be used to count rabbits as well
  • The rabbits are counted using -wa because their ears resemble wings theory
  • The similar flavor and net theory
  • A theory that says that -wa is supposed to be used to count rabbits because of the kanji used to write rabbit in Japanese
  • The theory that people decided to count rabbits in the same way they count birds because they wanted to create a loophole in order to get away with eating meat
  • An atypical reading of the kanji for rabbit
  • How butterflies are counted using the same counter used for livestock in Japanese
  • And much more!

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Sources, Links, Videos, Etc.

For mroe information about Japan's relationship with so-called meat bans, you can check out the article below. This is the one that was found on the Kikkoman website.

Here is another English-language reference.

Here are some of the Japanese-language articles used as sources for this episode.

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Here's some of the Ichimon Japan episodes mentioned in this episode.

Don't forget to check out the latest episode of the Japan Station podcast.

Japanese Vocabulary List

Most episodes feature at least one or two interesting Japanese words or phrases. Here's some of the ones that came up on this episode. All information is from Jim Breen's WWWJDIC.

  • Usagi
    • うさぎ (n) rabbit; hare; coney; cony; lagomorph (esp. leporids)
  • Hane, -wa, u
    •  
    • 羽 : 羽(P); 羽根(P) 【はね(P); は(羽)】 (n) (1) feather; plume; down; (n) (2) wing; (n) (3) (羽根 only) blade (of a fan, propeller, etc.); (n) (4) (はね only) (See シャトル・1) shuttlecock (in badminton); (n) (5) (羽根 only) (also written as 羽子) (See 羽子・はご) shuttlecock (in hanetsuki); (n) (6) (羽根 only) (See 矢羽・やばね) arrow feathers; (P); 【わ(P); ば; ぱ】 ; (ctr) counter for birds, rabbits, etc.; (P); 【う】 ; (n) (See 五音) fifth degree (of the Japanese and Chinese pentatonic scale)
  • Umō
    • 羽毛 【うもう】 (n,adj-no) feathers; plumage; down
  • -hiki
    • 匹 : 匹(P); 疋 【ひき(P); き】 (ctr) (1) (ひき only) counter for small animals; (ctr) (2) counter for rolls of cloth (two han in size); (ctr) (3) (き only) (arch) counter for horses; (n) (4) roll of cloth
  • Atama, Kashira, -tō
    • 頭 【あたま(P); かしら(P)】 (n) (1) head; (n) (2) hair (on one's head); (n) (3) (あたま only) mind; brains; intellect; (n) (4) leader; chief; boss; captain; (n) (5) top; tip; (n) (6) beginning; start; (n) (7) (あたま only) (See 頭数) head; person; (n) (8) (あたま only) (abbr) (See 頭金) down payment; deposit; (n) (9) (かしら only) top structural component of a kanji; (n) (10) (あたま only) (col) {mahj} (See 雀頭・ジャントー) pair; (P); 【とう】 ; (ctr) counter for large animals (e.g. head of cattle); counter for insects in a collection; counter for helmets, masks, etc.

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Full Show Notes


Curious about why some Japanese words sound so specific or what really lies behind a historical anecdote you heard? Ichimon Japan: A Podcast About Japan and the Japanese Language by JapanKyo.com digs into exactly those kinds of inquiries. Hosts Tony and Ryan, both holding master's degrees in Japanese Language & Linguistics, use listener questions as a starting point for deep, conversational explorations. Their approach is grounded in personal experience living in Japan and thorough research using Japanese and English sources, which allows them to move beyond surface-level explanations. Within this podcast, you'll hear discussions that weave together language quirks, societal norms, and lesser-known historical threads, all while gently correcting common misunderstandings about the country. It feels less like a formal lecture and more like joining two knowledgeable friends who are eager to share what they've learned. Whether the topic is a subtle cultural practice, the etymology of a phrase, or an event from Japan's past, each episode builds a richer, more nuanced picture. The result is a consistently engaging listen for anyone wanting to move past stereotypes and develop a deeper, more informed appreciation for Japan and its language.
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