Rules against power: Does the world need a new economic alliance to balance the US and China?

Rules against power: Does the world need a new economic alliance to balance the US and China?

Author: Chatham House June 5, 2026 Duration: 35:51

Would the world benefit from a new economic alliance to stop China and the US from undermining the global rules we all depend on – a new 'third pole'? 

That's the conclusion of a new Chatham House report published this week. How would an economic bloc like this work? Who could build it? And how would China and the US – even post-Trump – react to such a challenge to their power?

Laurel Rapp, director of our US and North America Programme, talks over an audacious plan for a new world order with the report's author and director of our Global Economy and Finance Programme, Creon Butler. They are joined by director of our Europe and Russia and Eurasia Programmes, Grégoire Roos.
 
Read our report: Saving global economic governance from the 'Trump shock'. 

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