Trump Year One – China's economic rivalry with the US is here to stay

Trump Year One – China's economic rivalry with the US is here to stay

Author: Chatham House December 15, 2025 Duration: 40:06

In the last Independent Thinking podcast of 2025, host Bronwen Maddox is joined by David Lubin, Senior Research Fellow with Chatham House's Global Economy and Finance Programme; Marion Messmer, Director of the International Security Programme; and Yu Jie, a senior research fellow on China in Chatham House's Asia-Pacific Programme.

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