I don't think that word means what you think it means...

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

Author: Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson May 1, 2025 Duration: 1:00:32

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the evolving definition of an "open market" in real estate. They discuss how consumer expectations, technology shifts, and the dominance of platforms like Zillow are reshaping what it means for a listing to be considered publicly available. The conversation also covers the historical role of the MLS, comparisons to other industries, and whether the industry should rethink its terminology to focus on "fair marketplaces" instead of "open marketplaces."

Key Takeaways

 

  • Definition of Open Market – Rob and Greg discuss the historical and modern interpretations of what constitutes an open market for real estate listings.

  • MLS vs. Portals – Analysis of how MLS participation historically defined an open market and how that has shifted with the rise of Zillow and other portals.

  • Consumer Behavior and Technology – Exploration of how changes in consumer behavior and technology have influenced the industry's definition of market openness.

  • Fair Market vs. Open Market – Debate over whether "fair marketplace" would be a more accurate and useful term moving forward.

  • Risks of Portal Dominance – Discussion on the risks associated with defining the open market based on a single platform's dominance.


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Industry Relations is a weekly conversation hosted by Rob Hahn, also known as The Notorious ROB, and Greg Robertson. It operates at a unique crossroads, examining where the business of real estate collides with and is reshaped by new technology. This isn't a surface-level tech review; the discussion comes from an insider's perspective, built on years of direct experience within the field. Each episode delves into the practical implications of software platforms, shifting market data, and emerging business models that are actively changing how properties are bought, sold, and managed. The hosts analyze trends, debate strategies, and often challenge conventional wisdom, providing a nuanced look at the forces driving change. Listening to this podcast offers a deeper understanding of the operational and entrepreneurial challenges faced by professionals navigating this evolving landscape. You'll hear specific case studies, evaluations of new tools, and forward-looking predictions about what's next for the industry. The tone is direct and informed, reflecting the hosts' deep background, making it essential for anyone invested in the future of real estate as a business. Tune in for thoughtful, weekly analysis that goes beyond the headlines.
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