Episode 1: A Decent Society

Episode 1: A Decent Society

Author: The Spinoff November 10, 2025 Duration: 49:13
After the breakneck reforms of the 80s, Jim Bolger’s promise of a calmer, more inclusive New Zealand hits the spot. Emerging from the shadow of Muldoon and shaking off the nuclear baggage, Bolger leads the National Party to a landslide victory under the “decent society” banner. But even before the celebrations are done, the hangover hits: the state-owned BNZ is on the brink, and the government books are in a parlous state. Ruth Richardson wastes no time as finance minister in making the most of crisis mode, and within weeks is driving through some of the most dramatic social, economic and labour reforms New Zealand has ever seen.  Picking up where the award-winning first season of Juggernaut left off, this first episode includes new and exclusive interviews with Jim Bolger, Ruth Richardson, Jenny Shipley, Don McKinnon, Bill Birch, Michael Wall, Rob Eaddy, Michael Laws and more.  Click here for full details of archive material used in this series Juggernaut 2 was made with the support of NZ On Air. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you thought the political upheavals of the 1980s were dramatic, just wait for the sequel. Juggernaut 2: The Story of the Fourth National Government picks up the story as a weary New Zealand enters the 1990s, expecting calm but instead finding itself steered by a renewed force of radical change. This podcast from The Spinoff chronicles a decade defined by profound economic shocks, severe austerity measures, and a whirlwind of policy reforms that reshaped the nation's social fabric. You'll hear about the complex and historic renegotiation of Crown-Māori relations, internal power struggles that led to a shocking Beehive coup, and the unlikely introduction of a new electoral system that forever altered the political landscape. The narrative is built on firsthand accounts, featuring new and exclusive interviews with key figures who were in the room, from Prime Ministers Jim Bolger and Jenny Shipley to Finance Minister Ruth Richardson, opposition leader Helen Clark, and Treaty Negotiations Minister Doug Graham. It’s a detailed, character-driven examination of how the decisions of that decade, made amidst fresh crises and a blizzard of reforms, continue to echo through contemporary New Zealand life. Each episode delves into the personal ambitions, fierce ideologies, and unexpected consequences that defined an era often remembered for its brutality and its lasting political transformations.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 15

Juggernaut 2: The Story of the Fourth National Government
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Episode 6: The Prime Minister Is Not a Person [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:19
New Zealand’s first MMP government gets off to a rocky start, beset by boxer-short scandals and lousy poll numbers. Jim Bolger declares “springtime for New Zealand”, but the economic weather won’t play ball. He leaves fo…
Episode 5: The Seven Generations Fight [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:01
The 1990s in New Zealand have dawned with images of harmony projected to the world, but longstanding divisions still acute at home. The Bolger government comes to power promising to uphold the Treaty and provide redress…
Episode 4: One for a Party, One for a Person [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:07:24
It took an extraordinary cocktail of events to bring proportional representation to New Zealand – everything from political cock-ups to public screams of resentment. This is the story of a country that decides to tear up…
Episode 3: Bugger the Pollsters [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:03
After some of the most hectic months in the history of New Zealand politics, Jim Bolger faces a white-knuckle byelection in Tamaki. In the seat vacated by the pugnacious Rob Muldoon, even the National candidate seems to…
Episode 2: The Mother of All Budgets [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 50:35
A mood of protest sweeps New Zealand in 1991, sometimes spilling over into violence, as the reform machine powers on. Benefits are slashed, the Employment Contracts Act fundamentally reshapes the labour market, the healt…
Juggernaut 2: Out now [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:09
The award-winning podcast returns to tell the story of a Juggernaut reborn for the 90s in National blue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Season 1, bonus episode: Ross Vintiner - The Lange I Knew [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:10:29
Ross Vintiner was right by David Lange's side in opposition and in government as his head of press. If you enjoyed the Juggernaut series on the fourth Labour government, you'll enjoy his insights into the singular figure…
Season 1, Episode 6: Breakup [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:40
The Lange-Douglas relationship frays further as the prime minister unilaterally pulls the pin on a flat tax package signed off by cabinet. A furious Douglas flies back from Europe, but the split only deepens, as Lange de…
Season 1, Episode 5: Nine Day Wonder [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:00
At the urging of the gay community, Fran Wilde takes the homosexual law reform bill to parliament in 1985. The campaign encounters fierce resistance from MPs on both the National and Labour sides of the house. Is it fair…
Season 1, Episode 4: Quantum Leap [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:48
Roger Douglas’s radical overhaul of the NZ economy kicks through the gears. A new investor class gets high on champagne and shares. What could go wrong? A bonfire of subsidies leaves farmers on their knees. Corporatisati…