The Future of Payments: Bitcoin, Agentic Commerce & AI Agents - w/ D. Parkinson & B. de Waal, Musqet

The Future of Payments: Bitcoin, Agentic Commerce & AI Agents - w/ D. Parkinson & B. de Waal, Musqet

Author: Just AI News August 10, 2026 Duration: 1:12:32

What is agentic commerce? Most people have never heard the term. But agentic commerce has arrived, and it is already changing how people buy things, run businesses, and make payments online. In this episode of Real World AI Talks by Just AI News, host and editor-in-chief Paulo Iñaki Palma sits down with Benjamin de Waal, CTO, and David Parkinson, CEO of Musqet, to break down the future of agentic payments and what it means for merchants, businesses, and everyday consumers right now.

Agentic commerce means your AI agent handles the entire purchase for you. It finds the product, reads the store data, adds items to the cart, and completes the checkout. Want to know how to buy things with your Bitcoin without touching a website? This episode explains exactly how that already works using Bitcoin Lightning payments and the UCP protocol. Ben de Waal walks through how to build agentic commerce right now, what makes it work reliably, and why letting your AI agent pay with Bitcoin is safer than most people assume.

The conversation also goes somewhere most discussions avoid. AI agents are paying each other now. Not in theory. In practice. David Parkinson says we are within twelve months of fully AI led, AI run, AI financed companies that still employ humans for physical tasks. Ben de Waal adds that the question of which decisions AI should never make has a much less reassuring answer than most people expect.

In this episode we cover:

  • What is agentic commerce and how it works in practice today
  • How to buy things with your Bitcoin using an AI agent
  • Why agentic commerce has arrived and what that means for merchants
  • The future of agentic payments and where it is heading
  • How to build agentic commerce into your own business or platform
  • Why AI agents are paying each other now and what that means
  • How Musqet built a full agentic checkout with Bitcoin Lightning payments
  • Why the UCP protocol matters for agentic commerce
  • How much of a business AI can run without human input
  • What fully AI led, AI run, AI financed companies will look like
  • Why being a small company is an advantage when AI is moving this fast
  • How AI avatars with real celebrity personalities are changing customer interaction
  • Why Stripe is struggling with agentic commerce and what smaller companies are doing differently

This is one of the most practical and honest conversations about agentic commerce, Bitcoin payments, and AI business operations we have published. If you are building in this space, working in payments, or simply want to understand where commerce is heading, this episode gives you real answers from two founders doing it right now.

Real World AI Talks by Just AI News is hosted by Paulo Iñaki Palma, and is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. New episodes every week.


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