Epiosode 1989: Travis Rieder explains why an ethically pure life is neither moral nor practical in our complex world
One of the more annoying characteristics of our coastal elites is their incessant virtue signaling. Every life choice - from drinking from plastic water bottles to driving electric cars to deciding to have children - is presented in terms of what Travis Rieder, the Johns Hopkins bio-ethicist and author of CATASTROPHE ETHICS, calls the “purity ethic”. Everybody these days seems greedy for virtue. But this greed, Rieder argues, isn’t realistic in an age of increasingly moral complexity. So, in our KEEN ON conversation, Reider lays out a path for leading a (reasonably) decent life which navigates between ethical fundamentalism and nihilism.
Travis Rieder, PhD, is an associate research professor at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics, where he directs the Master of Bioethics degree program. He holds secondary appointments in the departments of Philosophy and Health Policy and Management. His first book, IN PAIN (HarperCollins), was named an NPR Best Book of 2019, and his TED Talk on the same topic has been viewed more than 2.5 million times. His second book, CATASTROPHE ETHICS (Dutton), will be published on March 5, 2024. Travis has been interviewed by Terry Gross on Fresh Air and his opinion writing has appeared in The New York Times, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, and Psychology Today. He lives in Columbia, MD with his partner, daughter, and their very small dog, Yumosh.
Named as one of the "100 least ethical men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's most immoral broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four unethical books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.
This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe
Episode 2271: Keith Teare on why he's fallen in love with Elon Musk
Episode 2270: Craig Garnett on May 24, 2022 - Uvalde's Darkest Hour
Episode 2269: Michael Sayman looks forward to an AI age in which all our online interactions are with bots
Episode 2268: David Rowell on how new technology is making us dislike new music
Episode 2267: Jonathan Taplin on the coming cultural renaissance in America
Episode 2266: Mr Musk, Mr Sacks and Mr Andreessen go to Washington
Episode 2265: Jeff Jarvis on how to reclaim the internet from moguls, misanthropes and moral panics
Episode 2265: Internet Hall of Famer, Mitchell Baker, on the promise of an Open Web
Episode 2264: Robert Pearl demystifies the RFK Jr nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services
Episode 2263: The Godmother of Silicon Valley on luck, love and fate
Episode 2262: Steve Blank on how to hack the 21st century
Episode 2261: Douglas Rushkoff on why AI is the first native app for the internet
Episode 2260: Andrew Keen evaluates the health of American democracy