In Episode 1956 of KEEN ON, Andrew talks to Jason Pack, co-presenter of DISORDER podcast, about Netanyahu, Hamas, Biden and why he still have faith in the Israeli people to come to their senses
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Jason Pack is the Founder of Libya-Analysis LLC, and the co-host of Disorder, a geopolitics podcast co-produced with Goalhanger Podcasts. He is a Senior Analyst for Emerging Challenges at the NATO Defence College Foundation in Rome. In partnership with NDCF, Jason leads a project entitled NATO and the Global Enduring Disorder, which produces a range of content (including the Disorder podcast and series of publications) attempting to sketch out a ‘unified field theory’ of our current era of geopolitics while proposing actionable solutions to our most pressing collective action challenges. His most recent book, Libya and the Global Enduring Disorder (Hurst, Oxford University Press) is a ‘cross-over’ academic book that explores what Libya’s dysfunctional economic structures and its ongoing civil war reveal about our era of 21st-century geopolitics. Jason’s concept – that we no longer inhabit the post-Cold War World, but have entered a new era – the ‘Enduring Disorder’ – was conceived to describe the collective action failures that have come to define international politics. At present, he is producing a series of articles, media, and podcasts applying this concept to climate change, tax havens, and the geopolitical crises in Ukraine, Syria, and Afghanistan. Over the last ten years, Jason Pack has worked to promote UK-Libyan and U.S.-Libyan commercial, academic, and governmental ties. He completed an M.St. in Global and Imperial History at St. Antony’s College, Oxford in 201. and has been affiliated with the University of Cambridge, where he was a PhD student and researcher of Middle Eastern History. From January 2017 to April 2018, he served as the Executive Director of the U.S.-Libya Business Association. From 2019 to 2021, Jason was also a Non-Resident Fellow at the Middle East Institute; his publications and events focussed on the unique dysfunctionalities of the Libyan Economy. Jason has advised the UN, NATO and most Western governments on formulating policy towards Libya. Jason is the Founder & Emeritus Director of Eye on Isis and its flagship project the Libya Security Monitor, a not-for-profit English-language repository of non-partisan, cross-checked information on security developments in Libya. The LSM tracks the activities of Libya’s armed groups and political actors, the Islamic State’s offshoot in Libya as well as the other Libyan jihadi movements – an invaluable resource for governments, think tanks, and businesses concerned with jihadi threats and their evolution in Libya. Jason’s analysis and opinion articles have appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Spectator, Newsweek, The Financial Times, The Guardian, Foreign Policy, and Foreign Affairs. One of the few Western experts on the inner workings of Libya’s jihadi militias, Jason is a frequent commentator on the BBC, France 24, CNN, VOA, and Al Jazeera. Jason was the 2018 World Champion of Doubles Backgammon and is the CEO of The Birthplace of Wine Experience.
Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.
